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leadfree cylinder
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:00 am
by deano69
Im looking at the charles wares morris minor centres lead free cylinder and wondered if anyones got experience of them?I have contacted the centre about them and they assure me they've been using them for a few years on many cars with no complaints but they would say that wouldn't they, so what do you lot think of them?Any good or bad reports?
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:01 am
by bigjohn
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:23 am
by bmcecosse
No complaints ? Must be about the only thing they haven't had complaints about! I assume you are meaning a lead-free cylinder head? Unless you are doing long hard miles - on the Mway - don't bother. There is NO NEED to do anything - just set exhaust valve gaps to 15 thou - and check them/re-set them every 3000 miles or so. It will be fine! No need for additives either by the way!
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:32 am
by Stig
I got a lead-free cylinder head from Bull Motif. No complaints about them!
Roy's probably right, you may not need to bother but I do a fairly high mileage so thought it a good investment.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:02 am
by mike.perry
If you are going to change heads you might as well wait until your present head needs replacing, if it ever does, before spending money on an unleaded one.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:04 am
by deano69
No its not a cylinder head, its a cylinder containing, i think, copper that is placed in the fuel line and deposits copper(?) into fuel as it passes thru as a replacement for the lead.I had been told 20 years ago that a minor could cope with leadfree fuel by an older very competant ex mechanic mate of my dads but wasn't to sure if that still was the case and this cylinder at £75 seemed good.
' There is NO NEED to do anything - just set exhaust valve gaps to 15 thou - and check them/re-set them every 3000 miles or so'-BMC i wouldn't know how to do this, though i suppose i can learn.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:08 am
by bmcecosse
That 'cylinder' thing is a comlete sham - has no scientific background to it whatsoever! Don't waste yer money!
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:12 pm
by deano69
Guess i'll be learning how to set exhaust valve gaps then.Thats gonna be a head off jobby isnt it?Last time i had a morris head off i couldn't get it back on again, hence the aquaintance of dads mechanic mate.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:15 pm
by bmcecosse
NO! Just take the rocker cover off - and the valves are right there. Very simple - do you have a workshop manual?
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:21 pm
by deano69
No, but i read the Linsay Porter guide to morris minor many years ago and have ordered a copy which is taking to long to arrive.Also read various other books on morris minor but that was mainly over 15 years ago.Best for me to have a book in one had and the morris in the other or else the words dont mean much, hence why lindasy porters book was so good, words and pictures.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:29 pm
by Stig
These "fuel line catalysts" or whatever they call them have been completely discredited. I wouldn't expect a reputable place to actually sell them, but let's not go there again.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:58 pm
by mike.perry
Get yourself a proper workshop manual. I have been working on my Minors for well over 30 years and I still refer to the manual now and again, mostly to answer forum questions.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:06 am
by bmcecosse
I believe when Wares sell a car - they fit these completely discredited in-line things - and then tell folks the car has been converted for use with unleaded fuel!
As you say Stig - not something a reputable place would do!
PM sent deano!
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:58 am
by billlobban
Caveat Emptor again!

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:27 am
by ASL642
Workshop Manual aka "The Bible" will teach you everything you need to know to maintain your Minor. Available from Ebay (or you could ask Bmcecosse

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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:31 pm
by deano69
Workshop manual is currently encased in wrapping paper courtesy of Santa.I had a flick through before mother grabbed it from my hands saying, "not before christmas" .No worries, at the moment im just greasing and wire brushing and soon to be underside priming and painting so dont need the manual just yet.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:24 pm
by bmcecosse
Ooooooooh! You are naughty Lou!
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:33 pm
by billlobban
Mine is like that - pristene- cos some reprobate, who will remain nameless, gave me the web address for a free on line copy
