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bleeding brakes
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:30 pm
by grumpygrandad
hello we are going to look at the brakes on the morris is there any problems bleeding the front brakes as i understand morris brakes arent the esiest to do .thanks. grandad
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:54 pm
by Kevin
If you are just bleeding them as part of a service there should be no problems as sometimes occurs with cylinder replacement.
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:06 pm
by grumpygrandad
having drums offto clean and see what state of shoes and any weeping seals.just being carefull as i would like my wife to drive it some times,got new seals incase needed..grandad
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:15 pm
by alainmoran
If it were me, I'd bleed all the way around not just the front .. but then I'm a glutton for getting oily so....
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:23 pm
by grumpygrandad
yes we will be doing all the brakes,,grandad
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:20 pm
by bmcecosse
My tried and trusted method - length of clear plastic tube in a jam jar with an inch of fuid - make a cup of coffee - put tube on nipple and open nipple - drink coffee. You 'may' need to press the pedal down and let slowly up once to get the syphon going, but often it runs without outside assistance - because of the residual system pressure caused by the little 'top-hat' rubber in the master cylinder. If any air present you can see the little bubbles travelling along the plastic tube. And of course - in between sips of coffee - top up the master cylinder!
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:37 pm
by MGFmad
I am going to give your method a go BMC, once my new cylinders are fitted. I normally use a pressure bleeder but don't have a fitting to attach it to the Morris's master cylinder. I could adapt the cap from the old m/c but by the time I did all that, the brakes would be bled (fingers crossed!)
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:49 pm
by bmcecosse
It works - although for new /empty cylinders you may need two presses of the pedal - and perhaps two cups of coffee!
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:39 pm
by rob.hardy1
Bmceccose. Can i just claify, you just put on the tube, open the nipple, 1 or 2 pumps and wait?
I have replaced the shoes and cylinders on the front of my MEA tonight and will be bleeding the brakes tomorrow and i have always assumed it was a two handed job. ( 1 opening and closing the nipple and one getting bored pumping the pedal when instructed UP or DOWN )
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:50 pm
by bmcecosse
Well - it works for me! And used it on Minors/Minis and most recently TR7 where I renewed rear wheel cylinder rubbers - and by the time I had nipped in to the house to get the coffee - the brake had bleed through very nicely without me even touching the pedal. There has to be some fluid in the jar of course to make sure it doesn't suck up air if/when you pump the pedal.
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:10 pm
by Dean
Thinking about it there is no reason why it wouldn't work. As long as you (like BMC says) have a bit of juice in the jar and keep the cap off the master cylinder and keep it topped up. Gravity does the rest, a push of the pedal will start the syphon. Looking forward to trying it.
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:38 pm
by grumpygrandad
thankyou we willl try let youknow what happens thankyou ,,grandad
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:58 pm
by alainmoran
nice tip .. i'll try that next time i need to bleed my brakes (the front end is coming off soon so that I can cold galvanise the chassis legs)
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:44 pm
by minor_hickup
BMCEccosse does it work with tea?
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:07 am
by Dean
minor_hickup wrote:BMCEccosse does it work with tea?
Suppose it depends if you get the brake fluid and the tea the wrong way around!

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:59 am
by aupickup
so is that a jar and tube on each nipple
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:42 pm
by bmcecosse
Only with Earl Grey.
I only do one cylinder at a time - so yes one tube and one jammy.
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:50 pm
by stag36587
I agree with BMCecosse - I've used the same method for my Stag though have to admit to eating a bar of chocolate along with the coffee...
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:52 pm
by bmcecosse
Welll - Kit Kat for me !
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:34 pm
by Dean
aupickup wrote:so is that a jar and tube on each nipple
I dare you to try a crocodile clip!
