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generator for 51 sidevalve

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:52 pm
by tortron
hey guys, iv rececently just bought my first morrie - 1951 4 door sidevalve.
unfortunalty on the way home the armature in the generator decided to give out (luckly my cousin owns a car transporter :lol: )
will a generator from a 58 match up no problem?
i have also been offered an alternator from one that has been converted, is that a better way to go?

thanks

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:30 pm
by bmcecosse
The 58 dynamo won't be a straight fit - neither will an alternator. But i'm sure they can be 'made' to fit with some work. It's a long time since I had a SV - but I seem to remember a very heavy section fan belt was used - if so you will need to have a matching pulley on the dynamo/alternator - and of course make sure the pulleys line up. And of course if going to an alternator the wiring will need to be modified to remove the dynamo control box from the circuits.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:30 pm
by alanworland
I have been thinking of fitting an alternator but have been put off a bit by the large 'B' section belt used on the sidevalve. You would have to fit (make?) a wider pulley to the alternator.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:10 pm
by tortron
hi, so if i were to swap the pullys out - from the original to the 58 i should be set? are there any major differences that would make this difficult?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:28 pm
by bmcecosse
I would say quite a few difficulties - but nothing is impossible - provided the pulleys will swap ok, and you can get the belt alignment sorted out.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:21 am
by tortron
could i request a few pictures of the sidevalve and 1000 generators to compare

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:45 pm
by bmcecosse
This should be the 948/1098 dynamo - from Bull Motif. http://www.morrisminorspares.net/shop_item.php?ID=2924
I assume you already have a dynamo for your side valve ?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:17 am
by tortron
Hey guys, late reply but yes a minor 1000 generator is a direct swap into the sidevalve, just switch the pully over (just a nut) and you are away laughing :)

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:53 pm
by bmcecosse
Aha - so you've done the job and it works ok ? Well done. Good to have the report back.

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:45 pm
by tortron
yea, haven't had any problems with it, im pretty sure that they are infact the same generator minus the pulley

tho of course after putting it it took 5 trys to leave, with the distributor plate comming loose, the brakes binding and the accelerator cable snapping :oops: Oh well at least that rules any of that out from happening again :wink:

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:47 pm
by bigginger
Oh no it doesn't... :(

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:53 pm
by tortron
exactly, tho i should hope that im now well versed in the art of roadside repairs, buying a 1 way bus ticket will do that :roll:

if anything its more simpler than my chevette, many an hour spent putting various bits back on with anything availible, sports strapping tape works wonders when your distributor cap clips decide to work their way out in the middle of nowhere, infact i only had problems when i removed it and put new clips back on :o
a full tool bag is always in my boot

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:01 am
by bigginger
Good move - but there's a hell of lot more space around the engine than in a Chevette - which is nice...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:45 am
by tortron
yes, its quite nice not having to burn/bend myself around the exhaust headers to check the sparkplugs

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:01 am
by bigginger
Fond memories here :(

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:27 pm
by mike.perry
One small point to fitting a C40 dynamo (ie the later type). Is your Series MM fitted with a water pump? If not then the fan blades will be on the end of the dynamo. Could be interesting fitting them to an alternator. If you can get the whole pulley assembly off the earlier C39 dynamo then you should be able to fit it to the C40 dynamo.
Best solution get the original dynamo rebuilt and keep the engine bay original.