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BRAKE SERVO KIT

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:40 pm
by clivedackus
Hi
Can anyone please email me a copy of the instructions for the Lockheed Brake Servo Kit that seems to be a common upgrade?

Cheers
Clive

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:56 pm
by bmcecosse
Dunno about 'instruction' - but the servo should be mounted slightly 'nose up', and if you want to servo ALL the brakes you will need to blank off the existing port leading from the master cylinder to the rear brakes, insert the servo in the line going to the front brakes and add a T to take a new line (after the servo) back to joint the pipe feeding the rear brakes !
You should note that a servo doesn't make the existing brakes any better - it just reduces the leg load.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:18 pm
by aupickup
well thats why we use a servo, we all know that one !!!!!!! to reduce fatique and leg load

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:25 pm
by bmcecosse
Some think it improves the brakes - it don't!

Re: BRAKE SERVO KIT

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:23 am
by paulhumphries
clivedackus wrote:Hi
Can anyone please email me a copy of the instructions for the Lockheed Brake Servo Kit that seems to be a common upgrade?

Cheers
Clive
Have you had a set sent yet as I've a copy if not.

Paul Humphries

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:51 pm
by DaveC
Have you had a set sent yet as I've a copy if not.
Hi Paul
I emailed my Delphi Lockeed type 6/7 over this morning
Dave :)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:15 pm
by MoggyTech
Just thought I'd mention a bitch of a fault to find if you ever work on a Minor with poor rear brakes that has a servo fitted.

If the fitter has used a Servo Check Valve in the vacuum line to the servo, make sure it's installed the correct way!

If you ever read this 'Scot' I forgive you...

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:25 pm
by dunketh
Excuse my ignorance but is it advisable to 'servo' the rears too. I never really thought about it tbh, just assumed it was the fronts that were servo'd.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:59 pm
by bmcecosse
The choice is yours - bit more work to add in the rears, and then there is the question of whether that will allow you to apply full pressure to the front brakes before the rears lock up!! Ideally - I suggest all 4 should be servo-ed, and an adjustable pressure limiting valve fitted in the line to the rear brakes. This will allow fine tuning to get it just right.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:22 pm
by jonathon
I'd advise assistance to both front and rear. Although I'm not a great fan of servo'd drums at all. No need for a balance valve as they operate perfectly well without one. The extra plumbing is only the addition of another 3 way.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:26 pm
by bmcecosse
And plug off the feed at the back of the master cylinder (poor access!) , and add a length of pipe to pick up with the pipe running to the rear brakes.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:32 pm
by jonathon
Yup, I'd go along with that too. Simply cut a larger access hole for the rear fitting on the m/c.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:34 pm
by bmcecosse
Aha - is it ok to do that - not weaking anything?

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:03 pm
by jonathon
Perfectly okay BM. We always ask customers first about removing around 20mm more of the m/c cut out but most realise the benefits and it is still hidden beneath the cover plate. :D :wink:

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:24 pm
by bigginger
Or blank the rear outlet while the M/C's out of the car having the top hat valve removed ;)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:37 pm
by bmcecosse
Ah but this was just a servo Q - no mention of different brake design!

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:57 pm
by bigginger
Indeed, until the subject changed about half a dozen posts ago.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:02 pm
by bmcecosse
Well yes, discs did get 'added in' - but that was not the main point! Anyway - it's all clear now and I haven't mentioned the ..........

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:32 pm
by bigginger
:D

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:13 am
by dunketh
I suggest all 4 should be servo-ed, and an adjustable pressure limiting valve fitted in the line to the rear brakes. This will allow fine tuning to get it just right.
Thats getting far too modern!

I know my old Fiesta used to have valves under the boot area so the brake efficiency was 'supposedly' automatically varied depending on what load you were carrying.
Perhaps the same could be done with the Minor? :lol: