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Cylinderheadstuds SV engine
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:22 pm
by svantemann
Is it possible to buy new cylinderheadstuds for the side valve engine somewhere ??
One is already broken, and others looks bad.
What threadsize is the studs in the engine ? In the nut end ?
Svantemann
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:45 pm
by mike.perry
The thread on both ends of the cylinder head stud is metric M10 x 1.5mm pitch. They should be available from the Morris Register.
Alternatively your local engineering firm should be able to produce them to your requirments. I am informed that 8.8 to 10.2 grade high tensile steel would be suitable. Carefully extract a stud from your engine to check the thread lengths. There are 3 lengths of studs.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:55 am
by paulhumphries
mike.perry wrote:The thread on both ends of the cylinder head stud is metric M10 x 1.5mm pitch.
Sorry to differ but I'd be surprised if Morris were using metric threads way back then ?
Are you sure it's not Whitworth ?
If so I'm reasonably sure that if the actual pitch of the thread might work out at 1.5mm the angle of the cut will be different.
That means whilst it will screw in it will only he holding on the peaks of the thread rather then the full area and therefore will be liable to strip easilly.
Paul Humphries
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:03 am
by HarryMango
Hi Paul
Mike Perry is correct, the sidevalve engine does contain some metric threads. I can't remember all the details without looking it up but it relates to Morris buying out a French engineering company & using their engine parts for the sidevalve engine.
Rog
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:11 am
by paulhumphries
HarryMango wrote:Hi Paul
Mike Perry is correct, the sidevalve engine does contain some metric threads. I can't remember all the details without looking it up but it relates to Morris buying out a French engineering company & using their engine parts for the sidevalve engine.
Rog
Thanks for putting me right.
I never knew that .
I've learnt something new today
Actually it's a little strange working on our 1996 Chrysler Neon - a mixture of Metric & AF threads / spanners.
Paul Humphries
Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 4:10 pm
by svantemann
mike.perry wrote:The thread on both ends of the cylinder head stud is metric M10 x 1.5mm pitch. They should be available from the Morris Register.
Alternatively your local engineering firm should be able to produce them to your requirments. I am informed that 8.8 to 10.2 grade high tensile steel would be suitable. Carefully extract a stud from your engine to check the thread lengths. There are 3 lengths of studs.
Hi Mike
Thanks for your answer.
I will make new ones myself, using steel 10.2 or higher.
All studs are out of engine without snapping
Svantemann
Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:59 pm
by WPR678B
I must admit that it suprised me too when i discovered a few years back that the threads are actually metric!

Strange but true!

Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 8:10 pm
by mike.perry
All threads relating to the Series MM and earlier engines have metric threads with Whitworth bolt heads. I believe this relates to French Poppe and White engines which were originally fitted to Morris cars. This has the advantage that if you can always fit a metric nut to the bolt or stud.
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:02 pm
by Judge
mike.perry wrote:All threads relating to the Series MM and earlier engines have metric threads with Whitworth bolt heads. I believe this relates to French Poppe and White engines which were originally fitted to Morris cars. This has the advantage that if you can always fit a metric nut to the bolt or stud.
Are you sure it wasn't Hotchkiss Mike?

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:15 pm
by mike.perry
You could be right Bill.
I'm not old enough to remember
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:11 pm
by Judge
Oh very funny Mike, ha ha
