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Re: mopeds
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:33 pm
by les
Thought you might like to see this, sent from the ariel factory in 1937 for a 500 red hunter, but never fitted!

Re: mopeds
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:24 am
by MarkyB
That's new OLD stock for sure.
I've loads of BSAs over the years, now I have a 350 Bullet which recreates the experience, it even breaks down a similar amount

Re: mopeds
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:48 pm
by lambrettalad
beero wrote:My first sit on a scooter. Anyone know what make it is?[frame]

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looks similar to an Ariel ???
Re: mopeds
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:24 pm
by MarkyB
Not an Ariel for sure, I'm thinking Zundapp.
Take a look at these;
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=zundap ... d=0CDAQsAQ
Re: mopeds
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:03 pm
by ben_minor_63
It is a DKW according to my Grandad.
Re: mopeds
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:11 pm
by MarkyB
Can't find a picture of a DKW with the engine exposed like the picture, there are several even more obscure makes, no disrespect to your Grandad but I suspect it may be one of them.
Re: mopeds
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:20 pm
by beero
Had a look at google images for DKW and Zundapp and could't find it.
Can anyone remember any more names for me to search for?
(Wouldn't it have been easier if my dad sat me on a Lambretta or Vespa?)
Re: mopeds
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:28 am
by MarkyB
The Heinkel Tourist has a similar overall look.
The leading link forks don't look original, might have been fitted for sidecar work.
Having looked at loads of scooter pictures I think there should be a cover over the engine with just the kick start sticking out.
Messerschmitt scooters look more modern, I'd say it's East German but that doesn't narrow it down much.
What year was the picture taken?
Re: mopeds
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:11 pm
by irmscher
The scooter is a Dayton Albatross made in nw London 54 to about 1960 250 cc they also did a flamenco 197 both had villiers engines you can still pick these up quite cheap

Re: mopeds
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:00 pm
by beero
Well done Irmsher, the photo was taken about 1957, also in NW London!
Re: mopeds
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:47 am
by irmscher
At the time they were the Rolls Royce of mass produced British scooters

The velocette viceroy being a lot more expensive
Re: mopeds
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:50 am
by MarkyB
It looks like a quality bit of kit, how did you know about it?
While looking for other pictures of it I found this site;
http://vespafamily.vn/forum/showthread.php?t=115&page=4
There are 13 long pages of various scooters makes and models!
It seems as if any company with some manufacturing capability turned their hands to scooters at some time.
Re: mopeds
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:00 pm
by GPO_Van
Hi Les
New old (very old) stock like that is very hard to find and are very desirable items, to an Ariel owner that has a bike that they fit, just as good new old stock is desirable for the Morris owner though there is more of the Morris stuff about.
Reg
Re: mopeds
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:54 pm
by MissMarple
I'm into scooters too. I'm on the right with my 1965 Vespa 90, my other half is on the left with his 1964 Lambretta TV200 and my mate in the middle on his T5.[frame]

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Re: mopeds
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:36 am
by irmscher
Marky i used to restore vintage scooters as a hobby and still have three

i have been in the vintage scooter club for years a great club. Miss marple nice scoots the only trouble with the tv 200 they arent geared to go up hills

they need a pacemaker gearbox. Nice vespa 90 you have
Re: mopeds
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:01 pm
by les
Can't say my gt didn't go up hills! Although when the sx200 came out it had the tv175 gearset.
ps: I like the one on the left

Re: mopeds
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:36 pm
by lambrettalad
Re: mopeds
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:56 pm
by MissMarple
thanks irmscher. I am currently debating whether to have my scooter resprayed in trafalgar blue to match the moggy as they are both 60s vehicles. I don't ride it as much as I'd like as I've got no where to put the dog!
Re: mopeds
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:03 pm
by xpress
irmscher, what do you think about the puch maxi, are they ok for going up hills? i guess you can always pedal power! i just started her up earlier on, she was a bit reluctant at first but kicks over first time again now.
Re: mopeds
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:19 pm
by Squeezebox
Only just found the thread.....I can add another couple of Ariels - a roadworthy 1941 ex-Army 350, a currently dismantled 350 Red Hunter and a little 192cc ex-Police LE Velocette. Did you know that the LE was in production from 1948 to 1971.....does that remind you of anything? We did have Raleigh and Mobylette mopeds on the road at one time, we still have them but they've been stored up for years.
1941 Ariel W/NG, Morris and bald bloke.
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1966 LE Velocette ex Lancashire Constabulary
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Mike