new crossmember (fully welded?)
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new crossmember (fully welded?)
Hi Guys, Doing some welding for a friend on his 2 door, I am going to start with the crossmember but not sure how much welding i need to do. Generally I stick to the fully welded rule with repairs but it doesn't seem sensible to weld right around the crossmember
So basically looking for pics of your new crossmember or advice from the experts.
thanks
John
So basically looking for pics of your new crossmember or advice from the experts.
thanks
John
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
I asked similarly recently - and there are lots of replies. But basically - it's spot welded across the tunnel section - through the arch of the tunnel - and then stitch welded on both sides to the floors - and of course pretty much fully welded to the chassis legs where it meets them. Post up some pics as you go along please! I'm still dreading doing this job. 




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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
I've luckily never had to do a crossmember myself, however, there is an excellent how to article in the Rob Thommasson club technical manual. Well worth buying if you don't already have this book.
Cheers John - all comments IMHO
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
Thanks guys, Will check out the article and post some pics as I go.
John
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
I should hope not, it's current, not the original.
"Once you break something you will see how it was put together"
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
I should hope not, it's current, not the original.
How can I get access to the article then?
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
From regalia probably.
Here are the contents;http://www.mmoc.org.uk/index.php?page=347
MMOC members can e-mail, fax, snail-mail or phone MMOC Technical Advisor Rob Thomasson with any technical question for free. See your copy of Minor Matters or Rob's section in the Members Area.
Here are the contents;http://www.mmoc.org.uk/index.php?page=347
MMOC members can e-mail, fax, snail-mail or phone MMOC Technical Advisor Rob Thomasson with any technical question for free. See your copy of Minor Matters or Rob's section in the Members Area.
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
The technical tips manual is available on CD from regalia: http://www.mmoc.org.uk/index.php?key=Regalia&id=49
There were some hard copy manuals for sale at the National rally but these were sold quickly and I don't know if there are any more left in stock. Regaliaqueen will be able to advise.
There were some hard copy manuals for sale at the National rally but these were sold quickly and I don't know if there are any more left in stock. Regaliaqueen will be able to advise.
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
Well I did have a boxful of old stock manuals (Tech Tips in paperback- not workshop) but sold them all. These deal with the maintenace/sevicing of the car - not welding.
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
found and ordered. Thanks for the assistance.
John
John
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
I'm not sure that 'technical tips' is the same as the 'technical manual' that chickenjohn was referring to. Lou has advised that 'technical tips' covers maintenance & servicing, not welding, so I'm not sure that the CD will help with your cross member problem. Perhaps chickenjohn can confirm where he got his manual from, and when, or you could contact Rob Thomasson directly?
This thread might be useful for pics: http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f= ... eplacement
This thread might be useful for pics: http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f= ... eplacement
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
and it was. That was just what i needed know thanks.This thread might be useful for pics: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29899&hilit=cross+member+replacement
Sure the tech tips cd will come in useful at some point.
Thanks John
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
Not quite right! On page 13:2 of my technical tips manual Rob Thomasson has written an excellent step by step guide to crossmember replacement. There are a few other welding guides in that chapter as well.regaliaqueen wrote:Well I did have a boxful of old stock manuals (Tech Tips in paperback- not workshop) but sold them all. These deal with the maintenace/sevicing of the car - not welding.
EDIT,mine is the Technical manual, 2nd edition. I bought it from the club about 12 years ago!
On the inside it says Welcome to the new Morris Minor technical tips manual. So as far as I know, the technical manual and technical tips manual and the CD (I also bought the CD) are one and the same, possibly just updates of each other with new articles added.
Cheers John - all comments IMHO
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Re: new crossmember (fully welded?)
Update.... In the end it turned out to need a full new floor, sills and rear wheel arches. Plus to many little bits to count at the moment.
Given I am fully welding the floors I will fully weld the crossmember as well. Should keep a bit better with all the damp traps filled up.
Pics at http://www.flickr.com/photos/fairleyforge
We have the technology, we can rebuild it.
J
Given I am fully welding the floors I will fully weld the crossmember as well. Should keep a bit better with all the damp traps filled up.
Pics at http://www.flickr.com/photos/fairleyforge
We have the technology, we can rebuild it.
J
1970 austin pick up. Barned since '84. Back on the road 31/01/2011....