scrappage scheme

Post by **dunketh** » Fri May 22, 2009 12:23 pm

A stupid scheme put forward by a stupid government likely only attractive to stupid people*.

A complete waste of time and clearly another bit of misdirection to stop us all worrying about how far the economy has gone down the toilet.

*Apologies if this causes any offence but its not my fault if you're stupid, sorry.

Post by **superchargedfool** » Fri May 22, 2009 12:38 pm

possibly put a little strongly but not neccesarily incorrect.

Post by **dunketh** » Fri May 22, 2009 3:08 pm

lol..
Just seems odd that folk are willing to trade in their old cars for 2k.
2k aint much of a saving when a new car costs, say, 8k.
If you could afford 6k what are you doing with an old car in the first place. Also, you could have haggled the 2k off anyway - even before the scrappage scheme.
Grrr.. things like this make me want to bash my head against something immovable. Its so crazy.

Post by **Dean** » Fri May 22, 2009 8:05 pm

Reminds me of the days when the Polonez Prima was introduced to the British public. £1500 for your old car whatever the condition.... many cars handed to the dealership were better the the pile of naff that was driven out..

Post by **captain_70s** » Fri May 22, 2009 8:37 pm

Can't belive anyone would trade in an XJ-S for a Hyundai, even a knackered one must be worth more money in parts?

I guess this will happen to many more common classics, MGBs, Morris Minors etc. Some of them could be cars that just scraped by the MOT or are too expensive to run for people.

No-body wants to buy an XJ-S while fuel is this high, even Morris Minors are un-economical compared to a modern 1.1 litre car.

Post by **ASL642** » Fri May 22, 2009 9:44 pm

Given the choice of a modern 1.1 or an "uneconomical" Minor I know which I'd rather drive. Who wants to drive a Tuppaware box!

Post by **FrankM83** » Fri May 22, 2009 10:04 pm

there's talk that this scrappage scheme is to be introduced in Malta! lol now that's a disaster on the way!! with cars already very expensive,

Post by **Mogwai** » Fri May 22, 2009 10:31 pm

'61Morris wrote:According to today's Auto Trader, a 1968 Morris Minor has been one of the latest casualties in the scrappage scheme....

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/c ... cheme.html

Its going to be a cold bland future with everybody in a Hyundai (and anything else built today)

Post by **FrankM83** » Sat May 23, 2009 12:13 am

what's fun in a Hyundai?

Post by **Mogwai** » Sat May 23, 2009 1:02 am

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default ... ryId=19961

Post by **Dean** » Sat May 23, 2009 10:30 am

I suppose we are getting a feeling of how the Marina club felt when Top Gear trashed one of there's in the name of entertainment.

Post by **captain_70s** » Sat May 23, 2009 10:31 am

This is going to help destroy the cheap car market, there will always people who sell off their cars privatley to buy a newer seccond hand model but I still see alot of cheap cars going up in value to £2000 or being scrapped.

What about the people who need really cheap cars like students (:cough: me :cough:!:lol:), Micras for example?

Post by **Sidney'61** » Sat May 23, 2009 1:11 pm

I hope i never meet the two people who decided to scrap the '68 morris and the '66 austin as they will almost certainly get my annoyance in their face.

Obviously the people who scrapped any of these classics including the two jaguars mentioned need locking up for their own safety. A car that is almost certainly gaining value as it gets older being swapped for a car that probably won't be still on the road in 5 years time.
I think they should also IQ test all the people who take part in this scheme, there may be some interesting results

Post by **aupickup** » Sat May 23, 2009 1:26 pm

but you can not take away peoles choices, whether right or wrong according to us

there are many reasons financially and personally why people will take advantage of this scheme

if it works then all well and good to the thousands of car workers who at the moment face a bleak time

we need to look at the bigger picture

ok i would not do it to mine, but then i am with you lot

Post by **les** » Sat May 23, 2009 9:59 pm

Lets not kid ourselves, scrappage scheme aside, new cars have come a long way and are comfortable, reliable, economical, nice panel gaps and all the rest, not many would say a minor is better, just more of a diy car. I've spent a lot of time on my moggy, and I've not got a new car btw, I just accept the facts. I agree on the finance issue though, you do lose a lot.

Post by **pao7psb** » Mon May 25, 2009 1:34 pm

Agree with Les, I love my Moggie but I am fortunate enough to also have a modern company car and - the Moggie helps me to appreciate the modern as much I appreciate it.

With regard to scrappage, it pains me to say it, but to paraphrase the mafia guy at the start of The Italian Job, this government may not be so stupid as it looks (on this issue)...£2000 scrappage is made up of £1k from the government and £1k from the car manufacturer, so when Mr 1966 1100 shells out £10,000 (ex VAT) for the new Hyundai which he would otherwise never have dreamed of buying, the government nets £1500 in VAT for a £1k outlay...I know most of the cars bought will be under £10k ex VAT but the point is this won't cost as much as it looks once the incremental VAT is taken into account - may even generate a profit in order to fund some more antique rugs, duck-houses and moat cleanings.

Post by **eveline** » Fri May 29, 2009 9:54 pm

just something i read off a irish site

look whats falling victim to the new scrappage sceme in england !!!!!

this is from the pistonheads website

Friday 22nd MaySCRAPPAGE SENDS CLASSICS TO THE HEAP
Hyundai reveals some of the victims of scrappage

With the first week of the controversial scrappage scheme drawing to a close, Hyundai has decided to reveal what sort of metal is being sent to the scrap heap and it doesn’t make for particularly pleasant reading.

Amongst the causalities include six MX-5s, seven MGFs and a Jaguar XJ-S. German barges haven’t escaped the scrap battle either, with 34 BMWs, 22 Audis and 32 Mercedes all apparently on their way to the heap in the name of the scrappage scheme.

Nissan Micras have so far proved the most popular car to be scrapped at Hyundai dealerships since the scheme was introduced on Monday, with over 200 making way for a new car.

However an MG Midget, Nissan 300ZX, MGB GT and (we regret to inform you) a Fiat X1/9 have also been scrapped. Not all manufacturers have been as open as Hyundai over what they’ve been receiving, and although some cars will be dismantled in order to further the life of other classics it does hurt to tell you that a 1968 Morris Minor has also succumbed to the lure of £2k off a new car.

It isn’t, however, the scrappage scheme’s oldest victim, a 1966 Austin 1100 was also handed over.

Post by **FrankM83** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:41 pm

Just read that a 40k Mint almond green Minor was traded in for the scrappage scheme

Disgrace!

Post by **pao7psb** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:22 pm

And probably worth way more than £2k anyway! Grrr!

Post by **biker_bits** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:23 am

What I can't understand: a car has to have a valid MOT to qualify for the scrappage scheme.
That makes it a roadworthy vehicle! Does it not?! So, even a bit too early for it to become even a donor or a pile of spares.

Really angers me, seeing classics being presented for scrappage scheme, only to buy an even bigger (but newer and more expensive!) heap.

Some people not only have no financial sense, they have no morals!
As for the 'bosses' upstairs.... what chance have we got.