Radiator fitting

Post by **silverfox** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:02 pm

Hi, this is my first post so please bear with me. I've recently bought a minor fitted with a 1275 ital engine and gearbox. The radiator requires renewing. I've been told it's an allegro radiator c/w electric fan. The trouble is the radiator / hose system seem to have been cobbled together. the brackets holding the radiator are poor and just screwed to the front grill area of the car. I intend to bin the radiator, hoses and brackets and start again. Can anyone advise with radiator, hoses, brackets to use. I would like to keep an electric fan. Also the inlet manifold has a water inlet and outlet. Any Ideas?

Post by **PSL184** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:50 pm

A standard Mog radiator is fine for a 1275 so I would use that. At least you know it will fit OK. Any suitable sized electric fan can then be fitted to the rad by using a univesal mounting system or by making your own brackets. The water feed on the manifold is usually connected into the heater pipe - Its a subject of much discussion as to the pros and cons of plumbing it in though.....

Post by **bmcecosse** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:59 pm

I agree - use a Minor radiator. Probably IS worth connecting the water heated manifold in winter (certainly THIS winter!) - although better not connected in summer!
Here's the Bull Motif radiator http://www.morrisminorspares.net/shop_item.php?ID=1784
They make a fuss about 'double core' - not sure this is really necessary. There is a £15 trade-in charge - but it would cost plenty to send them the old rad anyway - so I wouldn't worry too much about that! Best to have new top and bottom hoses with that new rad.

Post by **silverfox** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:49 pm

Thanks lads, I'll take your advice and fit a standard radiator. Which top and bottom hoses will fit and is the universal mounting system readily available.(sorry to seem dumb but I'm new to this game)

Post by **silverfox** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:53 pm

The mounting system for the radiator I mean, not for the fan. Mine appears to be missing

Post by **Mogwai** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:22 pm

The cowl on the front panel is angled inwards on each side & the rad bolts to this If its been chopped about to fit the allegro rad you may need to fabricate new mountings or get a new cowl

Post by **silverfox** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:36 pm

Looks like I need a new radiator cowl then. Is this the name they are listed under. Do you know whether minor hoses will fit to the ital engine, sorry to be a pain

Post by **bmcecosse** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:46 pm

The ital may have larger diameter thermostat housing fitted - but it can easily be changed for a normal Minor item - or use a modified top hose. The bottom hose from a Minor should be fine.
Do you have any pictures of your rad installation ? The Minor rad just bolts to strips of steel on the front panel - so simple brackets would do it - or strips of thin angle steel (ie Dexion or similar). Electric fans have many fittings - but some I know are merely fixed to the rad with tie-wraps going through the core. Not sure I like the idea - but that's how some are done !

Post by **silverfox** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:59 pm

Sorry, I've stripped the rad off the car, no pictures, but you've given me enough info to do the job, thanks a million, I'll be able to sleep tonight. If I get stuck I'll come back to you. thanks again

Post by **Kevin** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:18 pm

I will take some photo's for you tonight to show what's what including the thermostat housing and the inlet manifold.

Post by **silverfox** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:52 pm

Thanks Kevin

Post by **Kevin** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:33 am

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Post by **silverfox** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:36 am

Thanks for the photos Kevin, things are alot clearer now. The left hand side bracket has been chopped out of mine, but I'm sure I'll be able to make a bracket to fit. Thanks again,
Terry

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:19 am

Is that the new Morspeed head on there Kevin ??

Post by **Kevin** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:59 am

Not yet Roy I still haven't got the midget engine built up yet

, thats the exsisting 11 stud head on the current engine.