MOT/legalities/requirements

[aupickup]

i have heard that some mot testers can refuse to do a mot if the underside is really caked up with mud

[Matt]

Rosehill Garage in Shirell Heath is Mog Friendly, Apparently the tester likes MoTing them, however all garages should test to the same standard

[aupickup]

we ave a couple of classic freindly places my way

[linearaudio]

Rosehill Garage in Shirell Heath is Mog Friendly, Apparently the tester likes MoTing them, however all garages should test to the same standard

Yes, but however much you tie things down in standards, there is always the grey area of "judgement". What constitutes a frayed seat belt, corroded brake pipe, even corrosion on chassis. Some spot welded chassis joints can be ballooned out with trapped moisture corrosion, yet theoretically still can be seen as sound,ie not holed. One area where I have disagreed with an MOT man in the past is exhaust hangers. I have had a pass even when one was about to break due to splitting, on the grounds that it is still doing its job, and is not covered for splitting on the test. I would rather pay for a new strap than have the old one break in two days time!! (this was on a customers car, not mine, I would have sorted it prior to the MOT if it had been mine). An example of lack of common sense?

[mike.perry]

A sympathetic examiner can still flag up borderline items as a warning rather than a failure which gives you the chance to attend to the items without having to take the car off the road if the old MOT has expired.
I would still rather have a thorough examination than a quick glance over, especially in the suspension areas.

[bmcecosse]

Yes - a good MOT place will give you a list of 'advisories' - and if you ask - they may indicate which of them are really borderline ! ie It could have been failed on them ! My place knows they will never get any work from me - I will just bring it back - and since they operate a Free Re-test scheme - if i bring it back they just have to waste time re-testing it! I would say - always make sure there is a free re-test arrangement before you book the test - or go elsewhere!

[Kevin]

i have heard that some mot testers can refuse to do a mot if the underside is really caked up with mud

Probably the ones with TV lounges and mechanics in White overalls

[rayofleamington]

Yes - a good MOT place will give you a list of 'advisories'

you know you've been lucky to pass if the advisories take more than one sheet ;-)

[glyna2006]

There is no decibel set for the mot in the vosa hand book,it say the car tested must sound like any other car of the same make ie as production car..the tester has the say so if it don't sound like another moggie it can fail it at the discresion of the tester to judge this we usualy have a conflab beteeen 3 of use regards glyn

[Onne]

There are a couple of areas where retrospective legislation applies.
Vehicles with fixed windscreens are required to have windscreen washers

I am sure my lowlight has never had washers fitted.
Does this go round the rule of "as it left the factory"?

[ASL642]

It would seem so as Brian Clark's "Floppy" from the MAD South African Odessy is now sporting a neatly fitted piece of clear plastic hose taped to the only windscreen wiper to feed water when needed.

[mike.perry]

Onne, if you have managed to pass MOTs without washers then the tester hasn't been doing his job properly or doesn't know the rules. You can bluff your way through a few things on an old car but it should be fitted with working washers, it can fail on an empty washer bottle.

[aupickup]

washers are a legal requirement for our cars

[glyna2006]

I'm afraid washers are a must a lot of early cars had this conversion done,some cars where forced into drilling thier wings for flashers this was not a must the same as seatbelts on the earlier cars,I myself have fitted 4 rev lamps with amber bulbs on a seperate switch thus retaining my semaphors regards glyn

[Onne]

That was still in Holland...

I'll fit some washers to the lowlight.. drill some holes in the unmolested bonnet

[rayofleamington]

drill some holes in the unmolested bonnet

It's already molested with holes - how do you think the hinges are attached ;-)

[Onne]

very funny...

[alanworland]

You only need one hole and have a double squirt fitting.

[mike.perry]

I prefer the washer jets in the panel between the screen and bonnet, you don't need so much pipe hanging around, you can hide it all behind the instrument panel.

[Onne]

But you have more potential leaks near the leccy bits.