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Running to hot

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I have just put a new engine in today. it all seems very nice apart from it seems to be running very hot.

what could be the cause? I think the thermostat is ok, but I will change it tomorrow anyway. If that fails what else could be the problem?

I think my temperature gauge is OK, as on the old engine always run bang on in the middle.

here is a badly drawn pic of where the needle is going.









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Post by ASL642 »

When you say new do you mean new to the car or just purchased from supplier?

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new as in a second hand one, from a garage floor! as seen advertised here http://www.mmoc.org.uk/index.php?name=P ... ic&t=19750
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Post by RogerRust »

If your going to change the thermostat you might as well spend a while flushing the system backwards and forwards until the water flows clean. Simply take one of the heater hoses off and flush it both ways.
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Post by alex_holden »

Did you use the temperature sender from the old engine or one that came with the new one? They are supposed to be matched for the gauge to read accurately.
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no same temperature sender unit (the engine did not have one)
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Post by PaulVW »

changed the thermostat and it have improved a incy bit.

giving it a run to dover tomorow, it will be is first long(ish) run, so I will see what it is like after that. (and stop and let her cool down if she gets to hot)
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Post by bmcecosse »

At a pinch - run it without any stat fitted to see what happens. This should not be done permanently - but will be better than overheating the 'new' engine!
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Post by PaulVW »

seems to be the same still.

could it be a problem with the timing?
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Post by RogerRust »

Does it feel or smell hot? Or even sound hot? Are you loosing any water?

If no or don't know to the above then should be OK.
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Post by PaulVW »

well obviously it feels hot :lol: but not "steaming hot" I did not lose a drop of water. Dont know what you mean by sound hot?

it needs tuning anyway, as it is a little "lumpy" when cold, so I may as well do the timing to be on the safe side.
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Post by ASL642 »

Have you checked the head gasket?

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Post by bmcecosse »

Well - seriously retarded timing can cause hot running - as can too weak a mixture. Advance the timing till you get pinking - then back it off slightly, and have a look at the spark plugs. Should be nice light beige - if white then dangerously weak.
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Post by beechford »

why was the engine changed? you could also reverse flush radiator to take that out of equasion,is there a heater ,try flushing this also ceeyas
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