It seems like sacrilege, but

[asbomog]

Is the only cheap way to gain decent access to Bertie's rusty bottom to roll him onto his side and lean him on tyres/bales of hay etc.

I'm a bit scared that I'll either
a) bend/ buckle the wings or roof,
b) buckle the wheels,
c) kill myself under 800kg of rusty steel, or
d) all three in no particular order!

All I want to do is weld ...

[SR]

hiya mate ,if its rusty enoiugh to warrant turning over ,you need too take the wings off anyway where u WILL find rust in need of sorting,steve

[Onne]

Sad, but very true says the man with the "rust free" series MM

[Multiphonikks]

But Onne, all the rust that you should have on your car and the rust that Steve should have on HIS two series MMs are all on Hebe!! ! ! !

While we're on the subject of rollage...

My garage is just wide enough to get the Honda Prelude in and still have just enough room for a shelving unit beside it. Hebe fits in of course a lot easier (and my neighbour's mini countryman makes the whole place look like a castle!)

Anyone think I'll have space to upside Hebe? Of course I'm going to have to get some kind of roller which either can let me roll her on the driveway and then push her into the garage, or one which will rotate her on the bumper mounts (a pain cause I think I'm going to need new chassis legs)

[chickenjohn]

Multi- The bumper mounts are not on the chassis legs, but the bottom of the front inner wing- and the rear inner wings/boot floor at the rear.

Asbomog, although I can't personally reccommend it, I have known folk to roll their Moggie onto its side for welding (onto old tyres) - and without any kind of rolling jig- although obviously its much much better and safer, to use the right kit.

[Multiphonikks]

Great - so that means it's possible to use those turners then?

[Cam]

I hope so. That's how I'm planning to do my '52! I have the roller but it's set-up for an Escort MK1 at the mo so I'm going to be modifying it mog-wise...

[rayofleamington]

There are many ways of doing it - most rolling frames can be adapted with castors to allow the car to be moved when it is rolled, however the simple rolling frames will need a bit of extra bracing as they were only intended to sit on a solid floor. Rolling the car outside of the garage (whre you have enough space) and then putting it in to the garage means that you also have the flexibility to get the car back out of the garage, (there could be many reasons why you need to!)

[KirstMin]

Mine had a fair bit of rust. You can flip them in a fairly small space with the right jig and they take up less space on their sides. I dont like the sound of flipping them outside the garage and rolling them in on wheels - i'd much prefer to do it all in the same place to reduce the risk of c@ck-up!

[nleader]

would there be any pictures of the roller with castors rayofleamington mentions, this seems a good idea?

[SR]

thats what i did, very sturdy on castors, we shook it hard, i dont think the bumper mounts r strong enough on a moggy !

more pics on weblink below

[Cam]

SR, I would have thought the same but after seeing a few traders at shows with Moggies suspended fromt their bumper mounts on spit-type rollers I thought I'd give it a go as my garage has not got the room for rolling a car over using your type of roller.

[SR]

right .ill shut up then ,although i did mean if the inner wings were rusty/weak

[Cam]

Well that's the thing. Mine ARE weak, but I intend to sort that out first while the car is on the floor. Oh and I'm also talking about a bare shell too which will be quite a lot lighter than a complete car. It will have it's wheels & suspension on but I'll be taking that off as soon as it's on the roller. With my 'spit' type I can rotate it 360 degrees and drop one end and have the other in the air. It's also on wheels. The bloke who made it did a good job but then he emigrated and did not need it.

When I drag it out this summer I'll be sure to take lots of piccies of it!

The mountings originally were just the bolts for the Escort's front and rear bumpers. That's all that held the car on and it was great for that apparently...

[rayofleamington]

i dont think the bumper mounts r strong enough on a moggy !

If the Minor is rotten then most likely the bumper mounts are NOT strong enough.

I have a Grumpy's Roller (sam as KirstMin's but mine is red not blue ). I WOULDN'T put castors under it as it is too basic, but with a bit of work it could be beefed up to make it more robust.

Here's some pics of yet another roller frame that was used to take a car in and out of a garage:

[nleader]

thanks for the pics, hugely helpful for those of us trying to work out how to do it with with small garages

[Multiphonikks]

This post is really interesting for me as I'm planning on doing Hebe and wasn't sure if this garage is big enough to work on her in - let alone put her on her side.



What do people think? If I managed to get a roller I could roll her outside and then push her in on her side. I may have to take the door off to get her in but... thoughts?

I'm really looking forward to tackling such fun things as this:



;)

I'm guessing Onne, Bigginer and PyoorKate probably know better how big it is as they've seen the garage first hand


Nikki

[Matt]

Have you seen what I did with my spridget? you need a hand to get it on (probably 3/4 people) but I was able to work on mine outside the garage!

http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Matts-Resto-Photos

the 3rd pic shows what i did, but its a convertible and would need some adjustments!

[Multiphonikks]

Very cool!

But no good for me as I live in a close which has a major car problem. There's the driveway and that's IT for me

But I do like the hybrid Spriget/soapbox approach illustrated here Matt:

[Matt]

That was so I could wheel the car around before i painted the engine bay! (I wanted to paint under the shocks....)