2 Dr Restoration

Post by **ronwilson** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:35 pm

Understand the general areas which decay in a Morris. Are there problems in restoring a 2 Dr 1000 Saloon that are peculiar to that model ??

Anyone with experience of that ? Thanks for any insights.

Post by **Cam** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:01 am

Well, the only main difference is the section in-between the rear of the door and the front lower edge of the rear wing. That usually rots out and is frequently bodged over with filler from previous owners.

There's not THAT much in it, but the 2 door saloon is probably the easiest varient to repair/restore.

Post by **Matt** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:04 am

and that bit is a pain in the bum to repair properly! (i did it on the convertable - only a tiny amount of bubbling showing through paint)

Post by SR » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:05 am

heres the offending area, welded and filled ,just hope it dont show when painted

full restoration pics on my weblink mate

Post by **rayofleamington** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:06 pm

As already mentioned - the 'boxing plate' is behind the bodywork therefore is often ignored. If this is rotten then you sill is very weak. Replacing the entire boxing plate on a 2 dr is very hard (but the best way) however it can be repaired if you peel back some bodywork and use decent thickness steel etc..
If it is only rotten in the last few inches at the rear, you may be able to access by cutting back the inner wing.

Post by **ronwilson** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:58 pm

Thanks everyone (Ray, Cam, Steve, Matt) for that very useful info.

Steve-that looks like excellent restoration. Hope the paint brings it up a treat.

Post by **Cam** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:11 pm

ron,

Have a click about on the pictures on this weblink (especially the bottom ones): http://potteries.mmoc.org.uk/Members_Ca ... MU826B.htm

It it my 1963 car that I repaired this October just gone and sounds similar to yours perhaps.

Post by **rayofleamington** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:35 pm

There's not THAT much in it, but the 2 door saloon is probably the easiest varient to repair/restore.

It's a close run thing - the 4 door gives much easier access to the sills etc..
have a look on:
http://minor-detour-car.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/

but on the other hand, you do get an extra pair of doors to go rotten!

Post by **Cam** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:39 pm

True it's close. But as you have said before the captive nuts on the front of the rear wings are much easier to get at on a 2 door, so it's a close call.

Post by SR » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:58 am

cheers ron , weblinks like cams or mine will help u greatly, lyndsay porters book is good ,but does not show it all, try to post some pics when u start ron,steve

Post by SR » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:34 pm

cam ,just looked at your weblink, full blown resto innit mate?, looks really good ,few buckets of waxoil should see it through another 30 yrs easy mate, these weblinks r a godsend for anyone tackling a moggy rebuild for the first time,steve

Post by **Cam** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:40 pm

SR wrote:cam ,just looked at your weblink, full blown resto innit mate?, looks really good ,few buckets of waxoil should see it through another 30 yrs easy mate, these weblinks r a godsend for anyone tackling a moggy rebuild for the first time,steve

Yeah, it was supposed to be 'solid underneath'

That will teach me to wear rose tinted specs!

The other side is just patched for now but the passenger side (the rebuild side) needs a bit 'o waxoyl and that should keep it good for a few years like you say!

The weblinks really are a godsend (as is this messageboard) as years ago it would have been a lot more difficult to get advice as quick from so many people too! God bless the internet!

Post by **Onne** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:55 pm

Amen to that!

Post by **ronwilson** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:08 pm

Cam wrote: The weblinks really are a godsend (as is this messageboard) as years ago it would have been a lot more difficult to get advice as quick from so many people too! God bless the internet!

and the good, willing and canny people who offer such sound advice on it !

Post by **Chris Morley** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:44 pm

The problem with the Lindsay porter book is that the pictures are black & white and grainy so it's hard to see what's being done.

Ideally with digital technology there should be a website with 1000s of online colour pictures showing the before, during and after shots plus advice on tools, techniques and repair panel creation.

Does anyone fancy taking on this thankless task?

Post by SR » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:52 pm

brilliant idea chris ,let me know when u want the pics mate

Post by **Cam** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:58 pm

Yeah same here! But I'm sure that with all our respective pictures on our weblinks that this is coming together already.

And to think I used to get the mickey taken for taking so many pictures of my work!