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Handbrake Cables?

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:51 pm
by Packedup
Quick question - What's the difference between saloon and van/ pickup handbrake cables?

I've found a coule that look in good condition, but I don't know how to tell saloon ones from LCV, or if they're interchangeable.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:32 am
by Scott
The outer cable section is much shorter on the LCV type.
Definitely not interchangeable.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:38 am
by Packedup
Blast! You can bet the ones I found are going to be saloon ones as well :(

I suppose the best way to work it out then is to offer it up to the pickup - If it doesn't fit then it's not the right one, at a guess?

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:07 am
by bmcecosse
Why should that be ? The vehicle is the same length and uses the same rear axle , and I imagine the handbrake is in the same spot on the transmission tunnel.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:29 am
by Cam
Well, the end of the outer sheath bolts near the rear heelboard on the saloon, conv & trav. The LCVs don't have one, so presumably they have their mounting points elsewhere...

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:44 pm
by bigginger
Like on a bracket attatched to the chassis, about 18 inches behind the cab back.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:47 pm
by Cam
That's the fella! :wink:

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:34 pm
by Packedup
OK, I found two different lengths of cables after much searching today. The shorter ones are shorter (outers) by about 3 inches or so at a guesstimation, does that sound about right, or could they be badly made saloon ones?

Next question - The little fitting gubbins. I found a pot with one of these in, but I can't see how they come off without chopping the cable. Most of the cables I found had broken ones of these, be nice if there's a trick to replacing them :)

Unfortunately, my desire to get the handbrake working for a little more safety as the front is back in the air fell through, as the bag of cylinders has gone walkabouts, and I couldn't find any of those little ally bits for the back of the cab :( Just about sumed up my day as I sheared the blasted stud trying to replace the (incorrect) Mini heater valve with a Minor one...

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:52 pm
by bmcecosse
Ah right - i see why they will be different then. It's not possible to renew the fixing points without destroying the cable.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:43 pm
by bigginger
Packedup wrote: and I couldn't find any of those little ally bits for the back of the cab :(
I'm sure I'm being dense here, but what little alloy bits for the back of the cab?

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:19 pm
by Packedup
The cable guide bits to stop it chaffing on the metal panel. From what I can tell in the photo on ESMs site, they're sort of teardrop shaped. Without them the cable is rubbing straight on the currently rough and slightly rusty edge of the hole :(

Found a link (if it works) http://shop.morrisminorspares.co.uk/pro ... d=1837&osC

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:30 pm
by bigginger
Aha- thanks. I'd just never thought of them as 'Ally bits' :D
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:53 pm
by aupickup
those bits are called horseshoes.

i have some origional ones kicking about some where i think.

they just bolt on, with the alloy bit on the inside of the cab

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:04 pm
by Packedup
bigginger wrote:Aha- thanks. I'd just never thought of them as 'Ally bits' :D
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They're small, so "bits", and alloy, so "ally". My general technique for naming any parts I find kicking around is to go by size, possibly shape, and material. You mean everyone else doesn't do the same!? ;)

Would never have thought of calling them horseshoes, that's what the nasty springy clip things on some rear slave cylinders are called, isn't it? :)