Morris Minor Owners Club

Mervin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 11:29 am Sadly it can't be read (by me) without signing up.

svenedin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:07 pm Good story and I like the fact that the article made some effort to dispel eco myths about classic cars. For instance quoting that the Minor in question produces 563 grammes of CO2 per year (admittedly doing a low mileage) vs 6.8 metric tons of C02 to produce a new battery powered car. That's 3,413 times more C02 to make a new battery car than the Minor emits per year......Draw your own conclusions.....

Stephen

Mr Spigot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:43 am Exactly. These stickers are available from the Scimitar Owners Club. Perhaps MMOC should do the same?

svenedin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:54 am Clearly I have quoted the wrong figure and I could not re-access the article to supply the correct number.

I think these comparisons are important. I am suspicious that there is a lot of "greenwashing" going on (pushing the "green" agenda when the figures do not stack up). Anybody who challenges the green politics is rubbished and labelled some kind of idiot. The trouble is we are not given the figures to make proper comparisons of the environmental impacts of the entire production process, lifetime of the vehicle and disposal/recycling at the end of the vehicle's life. For instance, I notice that there are vast numbers of SUV type vehicles on the roads today. These are heavy vehicles and regardless of the means of propulsion they require more energy. Not only that, if they are powered by batteries they have to haul the weight of those batteries around with them all the time.....

Stephen

mobylette wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:55 pm

svenedin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:54 am Clearly I have quoted the wrong figure and I could not re-access the article to supply the correct number.

I think these comparisons are important. I am suspicious that there is a lot of "greenwashing" going on (pushing the "green" agenda when the figures do not stack up). Anybody who challenges the green politics is rubbished and labelled some kind of idiot. The trouble is we are not given the figures to make proper comparisons of the environmental impacts of the entire production process, lifetime of the vehicle and disposal/recycling at the end of the vehicle's life. For instance, I notice that there are vast numbers of SUV type vehicles on the roads today. These are heavy vehicles and regardless of the means of propulsion they require more energy. Not only that, if they are powered by batteries they have to haul the weight of those batteries around with them all the time.....

Stephen

You did quote correctly from the article ". It showed that with an average annual mileage of 1,200 miles, a typical classic will emit about 563 grams of CO2 a year, against a CO2 hit of up to 6.8 tonnes for a typical new EV."