Page 1 of 1

VIN number Stamping

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:07 am
by Nourish
Would anyone know when in the production line did the chassis number get stamped?

Re: VIN number Stamping

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:55 pm
by geoberni
Interesting question... not for the question itself, but as to why you're asking. :-?

Unless there is someone here with intimate knowledge of the production line, I doubt you'll get an answer.

My personal view would be before anything when into the car and before the bonnet was fitted.

Just so a man in a brown dust coat could easily stand in the engine bay with a set of punches and do the job.... :)

Re: VIN number Stamping

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:50 pm
by firedrake1942
The shells with NMP plate came down to Cowley from the midlands presumably after rotodip and primer. As has been said, soon after arrival and before paint,

Re: VIN number Stamping

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:23 pm
by Nourish
Just out of interest - what about the Knocked down kits?

Re: VIN number Stamping

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:29 pm
by Nourish
"Just so a man in a brown dust coat could easily stand in the engine bay with a set of punches and do the job.... :)" That too is interesting - as their alignment is not uniform I presume it was done by hand with just stamps and maybe a bit of wood held behind to stop the panel from collapsing.

Re: VIN number Stamping

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:50 pm
by geoberni
Nourish wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:29 pm "Just so a man in a brown dust coat could easily stand in the engine bay with a set of punches and do the job.... :)" That too is interesting - as their alignment is not uniform I presume it was done by hand with just stamps and maybe a bit of wood held behind to stop the panel from collapsing.
Yes, probably a 2 man job. Basil's is all over the place, and much larger stamps used than others I've seen.

Re: VIN number Stamping

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:31 pm
by geoberni
Nourish wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:23 pm Just out of interest - what about the Knocked down kits?
I think that may well depend on the extent of CKD.
In an extreme example, that of Australia where kits were in Primer and even Paint colours were a local variation, they were given distinct numbers.
I've copied these images, for the purposes of this discussion, from a Australian Auction site, as if I link to them they might be gone tomorrow.
Down there the cars were assembled by Nuffield (Australia) Pty and given a local number in addition to the UK number, making for a very long VIN.. :)
VIN1.JPG
VIN1.JPG (48.75 KiB) Viewed 1937 times
So this car had the local number stamped over on the other side of the battery above the fuel pump...
VIN2.JPG
VIN2.JPG (96.38 KiB) Viewed 1937 times
But there's other examples online where it's next to the Plate...
VIN3.JPG
VIN3.JPG (36.52 KiB) Viewed 1937 times
If you study those plates, you'll find yourself wondering how they organised the unpacking of the CKDs. :-?

The last photo 192092, would indicate a SII, circa 1953, but it has a higher local number 23917, than the S3 car (681268) in the first image :lol:

Re: VIN number Stamping

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:54 pm
by simmitc
I don't understand the word "organised" in this context :-?

Re: VIN number Stamping

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:08 pm
by geoberni
simmitc wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:54 pm I don't understand the word "organised" in this context :-?
Well I'm assuming the first plate, for the car identified as a FA5 is '681268' .(Some of these Aussie Plates have random '/' all over the place but numbers didn't go as high as 7******)

So if that is local build number 10824, how is a much earlier SII car given local number 23917, some 13,000 builds later...
Did they leave it at the back of the warehouse for years?

Perhaps I'm misreading them.... :-?

confused.com...

Re: VIN number Stamping

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:32 pm
by POMMReg
geoberni wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:08 pm
simmitc wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:54 pm I don't understand the word "organised" in this context :-?
Well I'm assuming the first plate, for the car identified as a FA5 is '681268' .(Some of these Aussie Plates have random '/' all over the place but numbers didn't go as high as 7******)

So if that is local build number 10824, how is a much earlier SII car given local number 23917, some 13,000 builds later...
Did they leave it at the back of the warehouse for years?

Perhaps I'm misreading them.... :-?

confused.com...
Oz c/n rebooted at S111

Re: VIN number Stamping

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:45 pm
by geoberni
POMMReg wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:32 pm

Oz c/n rebooted at S111
That would make sense of these numbers. :tu1:

Re: VIN number Stamping

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:11 pm
by POMMReg
There were 948cc engined S11 CKDs.