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VIN number Stamping
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:07 am
by Nourish
Would anyone know when in the production line did the chassis number get stamped?
Re: VIN number Stamping
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:55 pm
by geoberni
Interesting question... not for the question itself, but as to why you're asking.
Unless there is someone here with intimate knowledge of the production line, I doubt you'll get an answer.
My personal view would be before anything when into the car and before the bonnet was fitted.
Just so a man in a brown dust coat could easily stand in the engine bay with a set of punches and do the job....

Re: VIN number Stamping
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:50 pm
by firedrake1942
The shells with NMP plate came down to Cowley from the midlands presumably after rotodip and primer. As has been said, soon after arrival and before paint,
Re: VIN number Stamping
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:23 pm
by Nourish
Just out of interest - what about the Knocked down kits?
Re: VIN number Stamping
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:29 pm
by Nourish
"Just so a man in a brown dust coat could easily stand in the engine bay with a set of punches and do the job....

" That too is interesting - as their alignment is not uniform I presume it was done by hand with just stamps and maybe a bit of wood held behind to stop the panel from collapsing.
Re: VIN number Stamping
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:50 pm
by geoberni
Nourish wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:29 pm
"Just so a man in a brown dust coat could easily stand in the engine bay with a set of punches and do the job....

" That too is interesting - as their alignment is not uniform I presume it was done by hand with just stamps and maybe a bit of wood held behind to stop the panel from collapsing.
Yes, probably a 2 man job. Basil's is all over the place, and much larger stamps used than others I've seen.
Re: VIN number Stamping
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:31 pm
by geoberni
Nourish wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:23 pm
Just out of interest - what about the Knocked down kits?
I think that may well depend on the extent of CKD.
In an extreme example, that of Australia where kits were in Primer and even Paint colours were a local variation, they were given distinct numbers.
I've copied these images, for the purposes of this discussion, from a Australian Auction site, as if I link to them they might be gone tomorrow.
Down there the cars were assembled by Nuffield (Australia) Pty and given a local number in addition to the UK number, making for a very long VIN..

- VIN1.JPG (48.75 KiB) Viewed 1937 times
So this car had the local number stamped over on the other side of the battery above the fuel pump...

- VIN2.JPG (96.38 KiB) Viewed 1937 times
But there's other examples online where it's next to the Plate...

- VIN3.JPG (36.52 KiB) Viewed 1937 times
If you study those plates, you'll find yourself wondering how they organised the unpacking of the CKDs.
The last photo 192092, would indicate a SII, circa 1953, but it has a higher local number 23917, than the S3 car (681268) in the first image

Re: VIN number Stamping
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:54 pm
by simmitc
I don't understand the word "organised" in this context

Re: VIN number Stamping
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:08 pm
by geoberni
simmitc wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:54 pm
I don't understand the word "organised" in this context
Well I'm assuming the first plate, for the car identified as a FA5 is '681268' .(Some of these Aussie Plates have random '/' all over the place but numbers didn't go as high as 7******)
So if that is local build number 10824, how is a much earlier SII car given local number 23917, some 13,000 builds later...
Did they leave it at the back of the warehouse for years?
Perhaps I'm misreading them....
confused.com...
Re: VIN number Stamping
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:32 pm
by POMMReg
geoberni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:08 pm
simmitc wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:54 pm
I don't understand the word "organised" in this context
Well I'm assuming the first plate, for the car identified as a FA5 is '681268' .(Some of these Aussie Plates have random '/' all over the place but numbers didn't go as high as 7******)
So if that is local build number 10824, how is a much earlier SII car given local number 23917, some 13,000 builds later...
Did they leave it at the back of the warehouse for years?
Perhaps I'm misreading them....
confused.com...
Oz c/n rebooted at S111
Re: VIN number Stamping
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:45 pm
by geoberni
POMMReg wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:32 pm
Oz c/n rebooted at S111
That would make sense of these numbers.

Re: VIN number Stamping
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:11 pm
by POMMReg
There were 948cc engined S11 CKDs.