Security devices

[Stevie R]

Hi All
Just wondered is there a product out there that works well on Moggys as a security device to deter it being stolen? I know there are loads of different devices but is there one which stands out from the crowd

[svenedin]

Many owners fit a secret switch in a hidden place that disconnects the power to the ignition coil. This is a very cheap option and prevents the car from being started. It will not of course stop the car being lifted onto a lorry and stolen.

A less convenient anti-theft trick is to remove the distributor rotor or one of the wires to the coil. You need to remember you have done this of course!


Stephen

[ManyMinors]

A large hungry dog inside also works well .
A little switch cutting off the fuel pump is also effective - although the car will start and run for a very short distance on the fuel in the float bowl of course. The thief is likely to run off though rather than spend time at the roadside trying to get it going again.

[Myrtles Man]

Something like this:-
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256151020011 ... R9js1ZfKZA
Easy to fit, remove and carry in the car and provides a visual deterrent, sufficient, you would hope, to persuade the potential tea-leaf to try his luck elsewhere rather than fanny about in the public gaze trying to hack it off.

[svenedin]

Of course there are also various steering wheel locks available

If you happen to have a convertible like I do then these cars are about as secure as a paper bag. Never leave anything of value in the cabin.

Stephen

[olonas]

With the required knowledge it is quite simple to bypass the ignition switch supply to the coil. Possible a modern scumbag doesn't know that though.
If the above information is not allowed then I will quite willingly delete it.
Not a real solution that will prevent the car from being pinched, but some years ago I bought two devices that key locked onto the tyre valve. If the car was driven off the tyres to which they were attached would deflate because of the centrifugal force from the rotating wheels.
I stopped using them - why? Go on have a guess as to who forgot they were attached and drove off with the obvious result about a mile from home!

[les]

Lowlife deterrent ——— although the vehicle I once had stolen was lifted and towed away after the handbrake cables were cut.

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[firedrake1942]

Do you have a technical drawing of that device, it looks interesting. I had a crook lock in the 1970s but you can bend a Minor steering wheel and get it off. Then I went to one of those gearstick to handbrake things but the ring around the gearstick could be shattered.

[les]

Unfortunately no, it was made by a friend of my Dad long ago. I did subsequently make another by copying the original. However I could do a sketch with some measurements and take a photo, then probably post it here, if you like. The plate is 1/4 inch.

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[firedrake1942]

Yes please!

[King Kenny]

I have a hidden fuel pump switch that saves my car once. Also use a gearstick lock.

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[Bill_qaz]

Unfortunately no, it was made by a friend of my Dad long ago. I did subsequently make another by copying the original. However I could do a sketch with some measurements and take a photo, then probably post it here, if you like. The plate is 1/4 inch.
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Nice fabrication but needs a better padlock, they could pick that one in a minute.

[les]

Hell, I thought that padlock was the best Bill ! It’s a Chubb. What do you suggest ?
Will do the drawing over the weekend, firedrake.

[Bill_qaz]

Hell, I thought that padlock was the best Bill ! It’s a Chubb. What do you suggest ?
Will do the drawing over the weekend, firedrake.

Chubb is a recognised brand not chineseum but I believe lever locks are not that secure.
Look at some of the padlock review to decide. Like everything lock wise it's a deterrent none are 100% unfortunately battery powered disc cutters will make short work of most locks.

Ther was a good one in a bike magazine a guy used one of those trip mines that use a blank shot gun cartridge place with a paint tin to mark the intruders but forgot to disarm before entering his garage

[geoberni]

Chubb is a recognised brand not chineseum but I believe lever locks are not that secure.
Look at some of the padlock review to decide. Like everything lock wise it's a deterrent none are 100% unfortunately battery powered disc cutters will make short work of most locks.

Depends on the key, but given that Les said it was 'made by a friend of my Dad long ago.' I'm guessing at a 1950s/60s one so possibly only 3 lever.
These days they still make them, but they're typically 5 or 6 lever, retailing at up to £200 or more each.

Chubb locks are now branded Union after the Licence for use of the Chubb Brand wasn't renewed about 15 years ago.

[exlkrs]

In this sector, what you are buying is time. The cleverer you are, the more time you are buying. I've always favoured the secret switching of the coil to earth, and isolating the supply to the SU pump. That doesn't legislate for the winch straight onto the recovery truck merchants, so premises security needs to be considered hand in hand with vehicle security.

[les]

Some dimensions for firedrake ————- There is no reason why the top plate couldn’t be fabricated rather than one piece with bends.
Previous picture shows the welds in more detail.

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[Myrtles Man]

It does seem to me that the best approach is to find/fit a visually obvious deterrent that should (or at least might) discourage the thief from breaking into the car to try his luck at nicking it, thereby avoiding damage to the door/window/lock/ignition switch etc.

[les]

You’re not wrong, it might be an idea to find a company who could make me a sticker saying ——-Pedal lock fitted —- or words to that effect. I’ve also got one of these Bulldog wheel clamps, which is obviously visible but using it every time one parks is not really practical.

[svenedin]

You’re not wrong, it might be an idea to find a company who could make me a sticker saying ——-Pedal lock fitted —- or words to that effect. I’ve also got one of these Bulldog wheel clamps, which is obviously visible but using it every time one parks is not really practical.

These people will make any sticker you want. They also have an excellent range of pre-made stickers.

https://www.isaydingdong.co.uk/ourshop/

Stephen