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MM Brake issues
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:29 pm
by Minor49
My 1949 MM, has recently been having brake issues, pedal is very long, adjustment on the rear is at its maximum, albeit that the brake shoes are new, any ideas please?
Re: MM Brake issues
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:28 am
by Peted7202
More info needed please.
What do you mean by 'recent issues'?
Is this a new problem after changes (new rear brake shoes)?
By long pedal do you mean excessive pedal movement before braking?
Have any other brake components been replaced/removed/refitted?
Has the brake fluid been drained/lowered/refilled/bled?
What is the sequence/time frame of any changes made?
Re: MM Brake issues
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:43 am
by myoldjalopy
Check brake fluid level in the master cylinder first.
Re: MM Brake issues
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:50 pm
by Minor49
Thanks for the reply, further info:
Complete rebuild completed last year, brakes have been fine, good/full pedal, 2 weeks ago partway through a run pedal travel suddenly increased dramatically, once home I checked adjustment & found the rear O/S adjustment to be fully off (lowest point on cam) & N/S fully adjusted but drum very free, just to demonstrate pulled handbrake on one notch at a time & drum still free after 3 notches!!
My worry is one the N/S on full adjustment but obviously not enough & secondly the O/S adjuster will adjust fully then jump over to the beginning again? No air in brakes & fluid level OK?
John
Re: MM Brake issues
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:03 am
by oliver90owner
Symptoms certainly point towards the brake adjustment. Either the snail cams or the brake shoes need checking for changes.
Does the pedal go hard if ‘pumped’? If so, it is unlikely anything to do with brake fluid level.
Re: MM Brake issues
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:18 am
by paul 300358
Some people (myself included) have found that new brake shoes are slightly smaller than the original. I have increased the length of the shoes by adding a run of weld to the edge then filing down so that its the correct shape. But whatever you do, don't adjust the handbrake cables as it can adjust the shoes away from the slave cylinder.
Re: MM Brake issues
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2024 9:41 pm
by Minor49
Thanks for the advice, I wondered if it might be shoe size or the drums had been skimmed! I’ll try a bit of weld & see how it goes!!! John
Re: MM Brake issues
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:59 am
by Minor49
One other thing I thought of is packing under the adjuster, has anyone tried that?
Thanks John