Gearbox -803 into 1098 won't go - will it?

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Gearbox -803 into 1098 won't go - will it?

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Hi, having changed a few 1098 engine and gearbox combinations I offered to help a friend take out his broken engine with 803 gearbox attached and replace it with a 1098 engine and gearbox. Problem was the hole in the floor for the gearbox isn't big enough. 2 solutions occour; cut back the floor pan a little to accomodate the 1098 gearbox (also needs the 1098 gearbox mounts which he hasn't got) or is it possible to seperate the 1098 gearbox where the extended remote is attached and just stick the old longer gear lever in the slot. It looks the same but somehow I don't think it is that easy.


Any thoughts, similar experiences or ideas out there?

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it is possible to make a hybrid box out of the 1098 donor (so I'm told) but not without a certain amount of work (If I remember correctly it's 'brixtonmorris' that has done it). The common solution is just to cut the floor.
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Don't see why this won't work - try it and see ! Once you start cutting the floor you are spoiling the originality of the old car.
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If I remember correctly, someone said that the problem is in the rear bearing being larger on the 1098 box. I think they said you have to machine out the tailpiece to fit the bigger bearing. However, don't put your 'box near a lathe without getting someone who has actually done it to confirm exactly what is needed. And if you find out, I'd be interested to as I want to do exatly the same job (well after the welding's done).
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We went the way of cutting the floor. Have heard that you can get a new plate made that bolts on the back of the motor and connect to the 803 box.
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Don't see why this won't work - try it and see ! Once you start cutting the floor you are spoiling the originality of the old car.
BMC you have answered your own question there.

Yes Rays right Brixtons the expert on this problem and his name is Mark as well, you can always send him a PM if he does not pick this thread up.
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Don't get you kevin - it wasn't my question !
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Don't see why this won't work - try it and see ! Once you start cutting the floor you are spoiling the originality of the old car.
BMC the quote was from your posting not the originator
The 1st part was answered in the original post it wont fit as they have already found out, and the 2nd part is self explanitary,
Sorry if I confused things.
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Post by loti »

Once again thanks for all the advice. I will pass this on to my freind. On balsnace it seems to me that keeping a matched gearbox and engine is easier and that cutting the floor is a small price to pay.

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I still don't see why the lever can't just be fitted in place of the remote control extension ! But it is 40 + years since I last saw an 803 box !
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I still don't see why the lever can't just be fitted in place of the remote control extension ! But it is 40 + years since I last saw an 803 box !
It's already answered
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Post by bmcecosse »

No - he wa talking about changing the whole rear end of the box - but won't the lever just fit in place of the extension on top of the newer box ?
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