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Front disc conversion query
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:50 am
by DavidAH
I have just bought the Marina disc conversion kit from ESM, along with the remote reservoir and the Lockheed master cylinder (as the advert for the remote reservoir said it was not compatible with original pattern master cylinder).
Is there anything else I need before starting this project?
Also, I have read some posts that mention removal of a washer/seal within the master cylinder. Is that necessary, and which seal is it?
Thanks for any help
Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:36 am
by King Kenny
Hi. I have Ford based discs fitted many years ago. The best modification I have ever done. The seal neds to be removed to prevent the pads from continually rubbing on the disk.

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Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:28 am
by philthehill
https://www.morrisminorspares.com/brake ... es-p829373
The remote brake fluid reservoir will work with the original Lockheed brake master cylinder. It will not work with a pattern/after market master cylinder as the rear upper plug of the pattern master cylinder is of a different size..
You will need to replace the original master cylinder vented filler plug with the non vented type.
https://www.morrisminorspares.com/brake ... it-p829339
Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:29 am
by DavidAH
Thanks for your replies guys.
Just to get this straight in my head, I use the Lockheed brake master cylinder with a non-vented filler plug and remove the seal as shown in the diagram….is that correct?
Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:32 am
by philthehill
Correct!
Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 10:56 am
by Jim McCrae
The clear tubing provided with the remote reservoir is not fit for purpose - it will react with brake fluid and will weep. I had lots of problems getting this to seal and had to replace it after only a few months. I suggest that you discard it and buy some proper EPDM brake hose.
Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:53 pm
by Sleeper
Tygon 2375 8mm , not cheap but good...
John ;-)
Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:56 am
by Steve Harper
King Kenny wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:36 am
Hi. I have Ford based discs fitted many years ago. The best modification I have ever done. The seal neds to be removed to prevent the pads from continually rubbing on the disk.MC Mod.jpg
Hi Folks, follow up question on this - do I need to remove the seal even if I don't have the remote reservoir?
Thanks in advance.
Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:01 am
by Bill_qaz
Yes it to prevent residual line pressure holding pads in contact, nothing to do with resevoir.
I have the valve removed, marina discs and no remote resevoir. Just check fluid regularly, easy to do, no panels need removing.
Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:55 pm
by Steve Harper
Bill_qaz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:01 am
Yes it to prevent residual line pressure holding pads in contact, nothing to do with resevoir.
I have the valve removed, marina discs and no remote resevoir. Just check fluid regularly, easy to do, no panels need removing.
Thanks Bill.
That leads to - how do you check the fluid level without pulling up the carpets and removing the panel?
Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:23 pm
by philthehill
Just lift the carpet and undo the reservoir filler cap to check the fluid level.
You do not have to remove any panels.
Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:07 pm
by Bill_qaz
Steve Harper wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:55 pm
Bill_qaz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:01 am
Yes it to prevent residual line pressure holding pads in contact, nothing to do with resevoir.
I have the valve removed, marina discs and no remote resevoir. Just check fluid regularly, easy to do, no panels need removing.
Thanks Bill.
That leads to - how do you check the fluid level without pulling up the carpets and removing the panel?

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Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:43 pm
by Steve Harper
Bill_qaz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:07 pm
Steve Harper wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:55 pm
Bill_qaz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:01 am
Yes it to prevent residual line pressure holding pads in contact, nothing to do with resevoir.
I have the valve removed, marina discs and no remote resevoir. Just check fluid regularly, easy to do, no panels need removing.
Thanks Bill.
That leads to - how do you check the fluid level without pulling up the carpets and removing the panel?
Screenshot_20230917-160507_Microsoft 365 (Office).jpg
Duh! Simples! Sorry

)
Thanks again.
Re: Front disc conversion query
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:14 pm
by Bill_qaz
Steve Harper wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:43 pm
Bill_qaz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:07 pm
Steve Harper wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:55 pm
Thanks Bill.
That leads to - how do you check the fluid level without pulling up the carpets and removing the panel?
Screenshot_20230917-160507_Microsoft 365 (Office).jpg
Duh! Simples! Sorry

)
Thanks again.
Don't apologise the only dumb question is the one you don't ask. We are never too old to learn
