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Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:27 pm
by jpallis001
Hi, like many folks with disc brakes and remote master cyclinder reservoirs I have had problems with the rubber/plastic feed pipe weapping and damaging paint etc.

I ordered the latest ESM kit, that they assure me will solve the problem, but discover that the pipe now supplied (looks like the see-through, reinforced petrol pipe) is now 15mm and is therefore unable to be routed internal such that it would pass under the clutch/brake shaft/mechanism.

The pipe will need to routed above the torsion bar. Has anyone, recently fitted this kit?

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:27 pm
by panky
I fitted one about six years ago and used the reinforced plastic pipe it came with, although others have had problems mine has never leaked or 'sweated' fluid. I ran the pipe through the chassis leg, there was just enough room to turn the end of the pipe round and fit it to the master cylinder.

You can see the pipe entering the chassis leg in this picture.

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Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:12 pm
by ampwhu
I used this company and this hose set up.

https://www.mcgillmotorsport.com/brake/ ... -70-p-3309

Been on 2 years now.

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:14 pm
by Declan_Burns
Here's a photo of my kit which is quite similar to my MG T-series kits. I have built about 75 MG kits already. It uses two 6mm copper pipes so you don't have to drill large holes in the chassis leg on the Morris. The reservoir can be placed wherever you choose as the pipe is long enough. Once installed then the pipes are cut and joined via a t-union. The third port on the union acts as a drain facility. It now comes with a stainles steel laser cut mounting bracket or an alternative Terry clip bracket.

Regards
Declan

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:49 pm
by jagnut66
That looks like a really good kit that you've created there Declan.
Best wishes,
Mike.

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:59 pm
by Declan_Burns
Mike,
It is good quality. Here you see photos of the 6mm pipe where it enter the chassis on the Morris. The stencil provided makes drilling quite easy. It is a bit of a fiddle to get the pipe in past the gearbox.
Regards
Declan

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:02 pm
by Declan_Burns
Two more pics.
Photos courtesy of Horst Sprossman
Regards
Declan

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:20 pm
by Declan_Burns
Here's a photo of the MG kit with the Girling style metal can and a stainless steel braided hose. I don't like to use the braided hose on the Morris kit as it means drilling a large hole in the chassis to allow the banjo to go through and the larger bending radius involved. That is the advantage of the soft copper pipe which I also do for the MG's. I can also do the metal can with the copper pipe if the JIC fitting is replaced with a longer one when using the stainless steel bracket. Not required for the Terry clip.
Regards
Declan

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:51 pm
by jagnut66
Whilst the plastic container provides an instant visual check of the fluid level, the metal can would be more in keeping with a classic car, especially with the 'Girling' labels added to it. :D
As always, it's down to individual choice.
Best wishes,
Mike.

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:31 pm
by serowman
Why have a GIRLING label on a Lockheed system??

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:01 pm
by Declan_Burns
Lockheed label is easy and readily available and here is the matching cap to go with it. It is all for the immagination
Regards
Declan

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:39 pm
by kevin s
I used copper pipe to get past the brake pedal and to the engine compartment, then rubber hose to the reservoir. I had to do this to squeeze in 3 pipes (dual circuit brakes and hydraulic clutch).

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:01 am
by Declan_Burns
I hope you used the right rubber. That has been the problem with a lot of kits on the market and the sweaty rubber hose. It should be EPDM rubber!
Regards
Declan

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:07 am
by Sleeper
Not the cheapest, but the best...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121518690884


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My Brake and clutch resevoirs , with Tygon.

P.S. You can see the brake needs topping up but no rush it's only the remote...there's plenty in the master cylinder..

John ;-

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:17 am
by Chipper
Interesting and neat setup, John. What does the gauge indicate?

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:31 am
by Sleeper
Fuel pressure ( for the EFI ) ..

John ;-)

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:49 pm
by kevin s
Declan_Burns wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:01 am I hope you used the right rubber. That has been the problem with a lot of kits on the market and the sweaty rubber hose. It should be EPDM rubber!
Regards
Declan
Yes I used EPDM from a reputable supplier same as the oem's use no problems with it.

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:15 pm
by Declan_Burns
Should be OK :tu1:
Regards
Declan

Re: Remote brake master cylinder reservoir

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:23 am
by Declan_Burns
You can always fit the Lockheed sticker. The 3D printed cap also fits.
Regards
Declan