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Heater valve operation

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:13 am
by spinninghoop
Hello all,

The heater valve on our new traveller is not conneted to the control cable, is located at the rear of the cylinder head and is seized. What is the operating sweep of the control lever? It is at about 12 o'clock now and must be partially open beause there is some heat in the hose. Does the cable attach to the lever and just act on the sleeve at the control knob end or does it act against a bracket on the engine or bulkhead that is missing? Presumably the cable attaches to the lever with the same type of cross-drilled pin as a throttle cable? (also missing). Many thanks.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:26 pm
by Stig
OK, this is going to be tricky without a picture but maybe someone else could oblige there...
If I remember correctly the outer of the cable is clamped to the bracket part at the top of the valve using a P-shaped clamp and small screw. The inner goes to the lever using a cross-drilled pin through one of the holes. There's a picure here:

http://shop.morrisminorspares.co.uk/ind ... c99f2334b
(though this picture is confusingly rotated 90 degrees)

From 'on' to 'off' is probably only 1/2 inch or so, 12 o'clock to 1 o'clock...?

You'll probably get away with a small dribble through the heater for now, but replace it before the winter unless you want to freeze. A fully working heater is barely adequate as it is!

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:06 pm
by spinninghoop
Thanks,

It seems that it is of another type, not the plunger one. It is more of a solid brass bar lever opening a solid brass ball valve, very simple. Must be of an older type? Anyone ever seen one?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:23 pm
by Cam
Yes, that's the earlier type. I have one fitted to my '52 MM and my '63.

Trouble is that you need to stop the car, get out and turn the wheel to shut the heat off!!!

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:31 pm
by spinninghoop
Cam, it's not the handwheel type either, and doesn't look like a lever has been added where the wheel was. Is there anyway I can upload a picture for general perusal and chin scratching?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:49 pm
by bigginger
You need to host it somewhere and then link to it - if you want me to post it, email it to me at REMOVED (a)

valve

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:12 pm
by Willie
I had a similar type on my 1098 engine, had no idea where it came
from. it had a brass body and a flat lever about two inches long
which was swung from upright to horizontal to open the valve.
It seized solid! so I have fitted a nice new brass bodied handwheel
type. Let's face it you dont have to turn it on and off very often
(twice a year in my case).

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:13 pm
by bigginger
Image

There it is then. Anyone recognise it?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:08 pm
by rayofleamington
I recognise it - as in I have seen that type before.
I've no idea what age or what car it comes from tho ;-)

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:39 pm
by spinninghoop
If I can't free it, is it a straight swap to the newer plunger type? Stud lengths and centres ok? Thanks

valve

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:31 am
by Willie
That is exactly the type which was on my car and yes, the proper
type will fit.( I donated mine to a museum)!!

RE: valve

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 5:55 pm
by HarryMango
If anyone wants one of these type look at this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... eName=WDVW

Rog

RE: valve

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:29 pm
by bigginger
You learn something new every day! I've got another mystery one on Bunny - must post some pics...

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:34 pm
by spinninghoop
The valve has now been changed for the cable operated type. Thanks to all, especially bigginger for hosting the picture and willie for the "like for like" info. Will post the valve on eBay as it freed off ok with a WD soaking unless any of you guys want it.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:36 am
by bigginger
Aw shucks, it was nothing... :oops:

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:19 pm
by Kevin
I recognise it - as in I have seen that type before.
I think you will find that the correct application for this type of water tap is the MK1 mini van and they are quite thin on the ground.
So spinninghoop I suggest you put it up on ebay and get a few quid for it.