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Weird oil leak.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:53 pm
by midget
Having put my recently restored van on the road, and expected a few gremlins to correct, but cannot get my head around the one remaining.

It's an oil (?) leak which is depositing a fair size puddle on the nearside engine panel underneath the manifold, as soon as the engine is warm and driven. Cannot make it leak when stationary, checked tappet covers,rocker cover, pressure release cap?
Thinking it may be coming from the shocker, but it is an exchange/recon unit from trusted supplier, and uncertain as to the appearance of the "fluid", although I assume that it is engine oil. Is shocker fluid always Red? as I had already discounted that, due to the Green colour of the leak. Shocker appears to be dry?

Any thoughts please?

Re: Weird oil leak.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:07 pm
by ManyMinors
Engine oil being drawn up the breather pipe into the air cleaner?
Obviously this would depend on the breather/air cleaner arrangement fitted to your vehicle :wink:

Re: Weird oil leak.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:28 pm
by KeithL
I had oil drip from the air cleaner after the engine had been run. My breather system seemed to be fine as far as I could see so in the end I just put a loop in the pipe to the air cleaner. That sorted the problem (although you will note the piece of paper towel underneath just in case).

Re: Weird oil leak.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:48 pm
by philthehill
If you have the later tappet/cam follower covers with the front cover having the breather/oil separator canister - check that there are no rust holes in the canister. The canister is prone to rusting away at the bottom which will empty oil onto the N/S tie plate.

Re: Weird oil leak.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:10 pm
by midget
Thanks for plausible causes, but definitely not a breather problem, and wash your mouth out Phil :D --rusty canister indeed!
Breather canister is on the tappet chest cover but this is connected directly to the carb body. I assume this is correct?
I notice that the one pictured is connected to the air filter. I have inspected both the canister and filter housing and they are dry as a bone.
As the leak is only apparent when the vehicle is being driven, is the shocker suggestion plausible? Possibly over filled? it appears to be operating correctly.

Re: Weird oil leak.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:32 pm
by les
Maybe wrap a bag of some description around the shock absorber during a run, to eliminate.

Re: Weird oil leak.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:53 pm
by midget
Not a bad idea Les, I'll try it next time I have an excuse to actually use it.

Re: Weird oil leak.

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:48 am
by midget
Glad to say that I have found the leak. It is from the left shocker! I have not had this before--is it a common problem?
This pic is after a 6 mile run.

Re: Weird oil leak.

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:52 am
by Myrtles Man
Well, all I can say is that it's common enough to have happened on my car too and, indeed, to the same shocker.

Re: Weird oil leak.

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:12 pm
by myoldjalopy
A few years ago both my (old) front dampers began leaking, one after the other, and had to be replaced. But disappointing that you should have problems with a re-con unit :(

Re: Weird oil leak.

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 7:00 pm
by midget
Yes, fortunately, ESM have honored their excellent record by sending a replacement, despite the sale date in 2017.
Super response.

Re: Weird oil leak.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 am
by don58van
is it a common problem?
I think it is quite likely to happen if the damper is overfilled. The factor workshop manual makes it clear that an air-gap must be left when filling.

In operation, heat is generated and the oil expands. Without an air space to compress, the oil will force its way past the seals, possibly causing them to fail completely.

Don