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Engine steady bar
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:58 am
by philthehill
I have started a new thread on engine steady bars to separate the discussion from the expensive traveller thread.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69337&p=631329#p631329
Can someone please post a clear photo of a factory welded steady bracket for comparison with a factory bolted in steady bracket.
As a taster here is a link to images of Minor engine steady bars
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=im ... &FORM=IGRE
Phil
Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:18 pm
by BrianHawley
For what it’s worth, here is a picture of mine.
Appears to be bolted to two anchorages. One bolted under the battery tray and the other welded.
No idea what’s original, but the welding does not look like Factory original quality.
It’s a 67 Traveller.

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Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:52 pm
by philthehill
Brian
Many thanks for the pictures.
I have never seen that type of engine steady fixed bracket on a Minor before.
My own engine steady bracket which was welded place when I removed the battery tray is somewhat similar to the bracket welded to your damper mounting cross member but is not a factory item but fabricated and welded in place by myself.
Phil
Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:32 pm
by ManyMinors
Like Phil, I have never seen anything quite like that either. I would say that the welded part is definitely not original.
Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:23 pm
by BrianHawley
I believe it was a Charles Ware restoration about 8 years ago (I’ve had her 2 years). A mildly uprated 1275 was fitted.
Perhaps they got it with just the welded anchorage and added or put back the bolted one for extra strength.
Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:35 pm
by GavinL
Phil, here is mine, which is fitted to a '68 2 door saloon, and which I have no reason to believe is not original.
Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:39 pm
by philthehill
Gavini
Many thanks for the picture.
Could you please post a picture of the two battery tray support brackets as welded in situ.
Phil
Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:09 pm
by GavinL
Phil, here you go. Sorry for the delay, for some reason I haven't been able to post photos for the last few days for no apparent reason. Let me know if you want any other views.
Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:21 pm
by philthehill
Thank you for posting the photos.
Phil
Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:37 pm
by simmitc
Welded only, no bolts/nuts. 1968 2-door:

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Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:14 am
by IslipMinor
Curiouser and curiouser!
Looking at a copy of the BMC Body Service Parts List dated 1966 I found this:

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Chassis No. 1194884 appears to be 1967 production, so later than the Body manual, BUT as it is in the Body manual, rather than the 'Mechanical Parts List', is this the introduction point of the elusive 'welded on' bracket?
The BMC Mechanical Service Parts List dated 1967, shows the 'bolt from the rear' bracket being introduced from Chassis No. 448801, and still in use at the time of manual in 1967:

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Does it clarify or confuse?
Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:54 pm
by simmitc
The body manuals are a good reference and agree with what I've got on paper, but here are some more photos to confirm/confuse...
1961 Traveller, as expected, bolt through (yes, I know it's rusty):

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1969 Traveller that we expect to be welded as it's after the 1968 saloons, but is bolt through:

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1971 Traveller built at Adderley Park, as expected, welded:

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It does seem that there was a changeover around 1967-69, possibly different for saloons and travellers, or possibly between sites.
Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:11 am
by washer-bottle
1970 Traveller built at Adderley Park - 2 bolts

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Al
Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:33 am
by midget
More confusion from me.
Blue 68 2 door = bolted
White 66 van =welded (but removed by me to fit a "Grumpy")
Black 60 4 door = bolted

Re: Engine steady bar
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:46 pm
by simmitc
It looks like it's a case of if Bert was on shift then he welded them, but when Harry was working, he couldn't weld and so he bolted them instead...
