Morris Minor Owners Club

hi all i trying to find out is there any engines out there that will go stright in to the moggy which is bigger than the 1098 im looking either pinto 2.0 mgb engine somthing on those lines
can any one help me out and if thay will fit the gear box
dose any one have one cheap
moggyminor16

1962 2 door saloon
1966 traveller (bling bling )

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MGB or 2.0 pintop will go in but require a huge amount of wark.
You'll need disk brakes, custom engine mountings, different gearbox which will also need modification, custom gearbox crossmember, custom propshaft, and an upgraded rear axle.
This is a lot of work. You may also want upgraded front torsion bars and you'll really be needing telescopic dampers all round if you want to be safe on UK roads.
The alternatives would be Fiat 1.6 or 2.0 engine and box - the mounting kits can be bought off the shelf but it is still a lot of work and expense. The Fiat engines are becoming rare as those cars are becoming hard to find and as many custom ppl use the engine the prices are going high.
Another alternative is to use something modern and readily available. The K-series is a great engine as it weighs around the same as the A-series but delivers plenty of power. There is again a lot of work to fit one and being a modern engine you'll pay a lot of money to get it running (the Rover ECU isn't going to plug straight into a moggy!) but again parts are available off the shelf (try JLH).

Your best bet for more speed without spending a fortune and making a lot of work is to get a faster car

Hi,
there are lots of threads on different engines already so a quick search might be worthwhile.

Basically no engine goes straight in. The easiest would be a 1300 A series (Ital / Marina), you could use the existing gearbox but you'll find it a little whiny. Next is probably the FIAT twin cam 1600, 1800 or 2000cc versions, though these engines are getting pretty old now. Definitely not a stright in swap and you'd need whole new drivetrain to make it work (gearbox / prop / axle). Then the most recent is the K series which as with the FIAT is no straight in swap and expensive.

That said you could put in practically any engine you like provided you want to put the work in. I have mentioned the ones above because they are more common and there are kits available for making them a little easier.

Also dropping in a bigger engine is only part of the work, you've got to consider suspension, brakes, cooling, exhaust, shell strength etc the list goes on. But body shell, brakes and suspension are probably the most important.

Probably the easiest would be to go the 1300cc A series route and then if you want more power later you can think about supercharger or turbo options.

Not a totally comprehensive run down but it'll give you an idea.

Now I think about it the best thing is to find someone who's already done it and buy their Minor instead.

Crumbs that was longer than I intended.

Regards,
Wal

I was up at JLH yesterday, and the K series conversion looks absolutely great. But a lot of work! (though we discussed Rover & there might be some cheap K's around!)

As others have pointed out, increasing the power (engine swop or tuning the existing unit) needs to be matched to the suspension, stopping and power train.

The designers will add a bit onto the design power for the components, but not man add in sufficient for a 50% increase in power - cost and weight are important.
Have fun chasing yur ideal!

Colin

there was a moggy on ebay a few days ago with a nissan 1400 auto init

Moggy ???? Moggy = Morgan ! They usually have bigger than 1.4 engines !

Moggy is Minor.... well it is to me!

Onne wrote:Moggy is Minor.... well it is to me!

And to most Morris Minor owners also!

Well - there are no Gs in Morris Minor - and lots of MORGAN owners drive around with reg numbers with MOG in them !! Better stick to Morrie - if it's really too much trubble to just say 'Minor'.

There are also no Gs in cat , but they get called Moggies

bmcecosse wrote:Well - there are no Gs in Morris Minor - and lots of MORGAN owners drive around with reg numbers with MOG in them

Lke I said before, there isn't an I in Morgan either. As for Morgan owners with personalised plates, a) So what? and b) they're only Morgan drivers, they don't know any better. I s'pose we'll let them carry on using it though...
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Moggy ???? Moggy = Morgan

Deja vu?

The normal term for a Morris Minor is 'moggy' in the UK. That's just life.
People have been using the term since a long time before I owned one and that is a long time ago!!
The antipodean term is Morrie, which is also fine if you are antipodean but I'm not and neither are the posters which use 'moggy'.

If Morgan owners want to use the same term I wouldn't complain, as they can call them whatever they like. My triumph friends tend to call Morgans by rather unpolite terms but it's best not to dwell on it, as plenty of people have rude names for triumphs.