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Clunk click, every er... every time I move off...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:36 pm
by Multiphonikks
Well, okay, not every time I move off.
Hebe's shudder has gone from a shudder to now deciding to make a large "clunking" sound when I pull away in 1st. If I keep the engine revs quite high and slowly let the clutch out she doesn't do it, but it does seem to be coming from futher back...
Now, I know for a fact that the propshaft is rather loose where it joins the diff (or there seems to be a lot of play in terms of lateral movement) and that my clutch release arm needs attention at this service. (She's about 1k overdue for the 3k service) but....
As the sound is almost as if the clutch is being 'dumped' (and the bang is too much power going to the propshaft/diff suddendly which causes the "bang") do you think it's just my clutch, or do I need to look elsewhere?
The rearwards judder which occasionally happens seems to eminate from about the same place. I wonder if the prop needs attention...
Finally, I'm going to have to think about tackling the rebushing of the clutch/brake shaft. How easy is that then?
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:53 pm
by bigginger
I'd be suspecting prop U/Js and praying it's not the diff, though if it's U/Js it sounds like they're completely shot. My memory's rubbish, but I seem to remember that I did manage to replace the pedal shaft without taking the engine/box out, but I remember doing the Master cylinder at the same time, which'll be why I remember it being an utter pig of a job...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:27 pm
by aupickup
the brake and clutch relay shaft is actually quite easy to do.
you do need to take out the gearbox tunnel and of course this could be the hardest part, undoing all those screws holding it in place, especially if it has not been off for a long time, be careful you do not break any, and watch the captive nuts.
then you need to take out the split pin and nut off the end of the relay shaft, you then take off the clutch linkages and tap the relay shaft out, oh you do need to take the brake spring off and pull the brake adjusting rod from the master cylinder.
then drift out the old bushes for the shaft and replace with new.
then put the new shaft with brake pedal and the cone and washer for the clutch and all the clutch linkages.
once you start you will see how it all goes back.
i did mine in about 4 hours all together the first time
clunks
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:46 pm
by Willie
That sounds as though your prop shaft U/Js have had it. If you have
to replace them then make sure that you buy the type with grease
nipples on them. They will last very much longer.
Re: clunks
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:50 pm
by Multiphonikks
Willie wrote:That sounds as though your prop shaft U/Js have had it. If you have
to replace them then make sure that you buy the type with grease
nipples on them. They will last very much longer.
Aye, my UJ nearest to the diff is sans nipple. There's only one nipple on the entire propshaft...

U/js
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:02 pm
by Willie
Only one? reminds me of Gladys, but that's another story, each
U/J will only have one nipple anyway as it is internally arranged so
that the grease feeds all four bearing areas.
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:14 pm
by rayofleamington
There's only one nipple on the entire propshaft...
Evelyn is the same - The UJ without a grease nip has the statutory slack in it

I bought a pair of UJ's but they are still in the box as the MOT man (blind Les) didn't spot that.
I intend to fit one (or referably both) before doing any serious miles as a failed UJ can do a lot of hidden damage [it was a chain reaction of failures starting with a failed UJ that got me out of moggies altogether for a few years

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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:36 pm
by bmcecosse
Surely a 'Moggie' is a Morgan ??? There is no G anywhere that I can see in 'Morris Minor' - so Morrie if you must - leave the Moggies to the Morgan owners !!
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:32 pm
by bigginger
...but there's no I in Morgan... I've never heard a Morgan called a Moggie, whereas Morris' have been called that for at least 38 years, to my certain knowledge! Tell you what, we could just share the nickname.
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:35 pm
by Onne
And both cars are to be proud of! They being 100% British^. I must say, when talking to my mates on MSN, we always talk about our Moggies.....
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:12 am
by rayofleamington
Surely a 'Moggie' is a Morgan ??? There is no G anywhere that I can see in 'Morris Minor' - so Morrie if you must - leave the Moggies to the Morgan owners

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:28 am
by Cam
I personally don't like the term Morrie (does not sound quite right to me). Although I believe that the Aus/NZ folks call them that.
I have heard Morgans called Moggies too. But so are Minors and cats I believe.
Tell, you what. We'll continue to call them Moggies as we have been doing for decades, and you can call them whatever you like!
