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Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:38 pm
by mobylette
Anybody know where I can get one of these, No 16 in the diagram:
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I can only find it complete with valve for about £20 !!

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:00 pm
by mobylette
Found one at Bull Motif, but nearly £12 delivered!

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:42 pm
by ManyMinors
That REALLY doesn't sound expensive to me for a specially made, low volume car part, delivered to your door!
I think that we Morris Minor owners are spoiled. Try buying parts for your modern car and see how much they cost.....

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:52 pm
by SteveClem
I've heard the opinion that the reason many new minor parts are substandard is that owners aren't prepared to pay for quality, so manufacturers are working to our price expectations. Has a ring of truth about it.

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:07 pm
by mobylette
Exactly, which is why I am not willing to pay £12 for a part that was probably made badly in the far east for 10p.

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:25 pm
by philthehill
I do not know about £12 - the base plate is available from MOSS for £4.40 plus the usual - see link below.

http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/base-plate ... soc=136597

The item listed looks well made to me :D

Here is another:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-MIDGET-AUS ... Swn45ZvSEl

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:15 pm
by liammonty
I’m with ManyMinors and SteveClem on this one - once you consider the cost of making tooling, shipping the part and so on, £12 is nothing. We are lucky we are able to get these parts for our cars, and in some cases, I’d be happy to pay more for better quality parts.

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:36 pm
by oliver90owner
Anybody know where I can get one of these, No 16 in the diagram:

Easy peasy if you have the machinery and tools. You won't make a one-off in much less than an hour, mind - unless you do this sort of thing regularly, or have a CNC machineat your disposal.

Plasma cut (or band saw) the flange and drill/bore the holes, weld on a (spigotted) socket, bore to size, tap the thread, and face off to remove any warpage/excess metal from the welding. You could do it with hack saw, files, hand drill, etc., or from the solid, rather than fabricate.

Soo, if you think £12, or £20 for the whole, is expensive join your local model engineering club and get to work!

I would make mine if it were difficult to obtain, too pricey or needed urgently. It is not really that difficult.

The flange is a standard sae size, no doubt.

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:13 am
by BrianHawley
Prices apart, I have to agree we mog owners are spoiled for availability.

Talk to anyone with a more obscure 50 year old car and they have to fabricate practically everything.

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:10 am
by firedrake1942

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:24 am
by philthehill
The thread of the home produced solid brass spacer I have and into which the actual tap fits is 3/8 x 19TPI BSP.

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:50 am
by mobylette
Thanks Phil, I have purchased the eBay one you gave a link to, £ 7 delivered seems more reasonable.

May I add that I am happy to pay for quality and reasonable postage charges.

The postage quoted for this small & light item has been up to £5 on some well known suppliers sites. Unless purchasing other items, then it is a no go for me.

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:34 am
by RobThomas
I had those ALTA components made and I sold them for what they cost to make. The bits above look to be amazingly cheap when compared to what it cost me to get my stuff made and I couldn't include any of the development time into the price. A 1098 valve guide costs maybe £5 but the material for me to make one from scratch is £5 by itself and then you need to add time/labour (1 hour each), electricity, postage, tooling etc.

Thinking about it, £100 for a complete new suspension leg is staggeringly cheap for any car! :D

Re: Heater Valve Plate

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:58 am
by Declan_Burns
The heater valve plate costs only £5.94 from ESM. Not worth making it yourself at that price.
http://www.morrisminorspares.com/coolin ... ve-p829611
Regards
Declan