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8" brake upgrade

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:15 pm
by Chris Edgar
I recently acquired a very nice 1958 4 door which has, of course, 7" brakes.

Going down a very steep country road recently I was quite alarmed by the extent of fade.

I have a pair of 8" drums in my garage and so I am thinking about increasing the braking capacity and reducing the fade.

Could someone please tell me if I am correct in assuming that, in addition to the drums, I just need 8" backplates and shoes and that the cylinders are simply swapped over.

Or am I completely wrong?

regards

Chris

Re: 8" brake upgrade

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:06 pm
by ManyMinors
You're correct. The cylinders are the same - although I would probably fit new ones unless you know that yours are in a very good condition. You'll need the correct pull-off springs for the larger brakes as well as the shoes and backplates and the metal link pipes are also different.

Re: 8" brake upgrade

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:08 pm
by bmcecosse
The metal linkpipes may stretch over ok - depends how tight they have been made.

Re: 8" brake upgrade

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:39 am
by Chris Edgar
Very many thanks to you both!

I do have a brake pipe flaring kit if needed.
And yes, I will need the correct pull-off springs

regards

Chris

Re: 8" brake upgrade

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:06 am
by philthehill
Chris
You have a PM.
Phil

Re: 8" brake upgrade

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:12 am
by crossword
I believe the adjusters are larger on 8" brakes too . Regards Andrew .

Re: 8" brake upgrade

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:26 am
by Chris Edgar
Hi Phil

I have replied

regards
Chris

Re: 8" brake upgrade

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:27 am
by Chris Edgar
Hi Andrew,

Thanks. I have come across this on a previous post.
BMC suggested shims underneath would correct when the shoes wear down low

Chris

Re: 8" brake upgrade

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:25 am
by philthehill
Chris
I have given you a first off reply.
Phil

Re: 8" brake upgrade

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:37 am
by bmcecosse
Yes - shims can be located under the tail of the shoes to help keep them 'square' to the drum. But the larger adjusters should be used if you can find a set.

Re: 8" brake upgrade

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:37 pm
by philthehill
8" brake adjuster snails (S/H) are available from ESM. As a last resort the 7" snail carrier/mask can be carefully modified to accept the 8" snail.

http://www.morrisminorspares.com/brakes ... nd-p829451

or new with snail carrier/mask

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MORRIS-Minor- ... SwEK9T0D8W

The size of the snail pin that the 8" brake shoe rests upon has a larger diameter than the 7" snail pin - the 8" snail must be used as the forces acting on the 8" pin are greater. The use of a 7" snail with an 8" brake shoe could see the snail fail resulting a loss of brakes
Phil

Re: 8" brake upgrade

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:12 am
by Chris Edgar
OK all noted re the snails...."Snail Fail" to be avoided

Thanks!