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Can this be correct? short engine on Ebay...

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:54 am
by iambiggles
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... RK:MEWA:IT

Are the blocks af the marina and the ital the same? I thought the ital was an A+ engine, - what constitutes an A+? its not just the heads is it?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:32 am
by Cam
No, the Ital and Marina blocks are not the same........ well early Ital engines (A+) were fitted into very late Marinas so I suppose that's where confusion can arise.

Anyway that's an A+ block (Ital) so bite his hand off!! :lol:

You can tell easiest by the distributor arrangement. That is the fork type clamp (A+) and not the pinch-bolt (A series).

The heads are the same (more or less).

That one has the timing chain tensioner on too! (A+) (different front cover).

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:14 am
by rayofleamington
Well bite his hand off IF the bores/rings are not corroded etc...
His distinctly short description of 'unused since reconditioning' could mean 'fit for scrap due to storage in damp conditions'
Hopefully it is a good un tho.

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:21 pm
by Onne
Ask IAMBIGGLES he is bidding on it...

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:25 am
by iambiggles
Onne wrote:Ask IAMBIGGLES he is bidding on it...
SHHHHHHH!!!! I don't want EVERYONE to know !!!

lol

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:52 am
by Rasputin
iambiggles wrote:
Onne wrote:Ask IAMBIGGLES he is bidding on it...
SHHHHHHH!!!! I don't want EVERYONE to know !!!

lol
Well we all know now !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:45 pm
by Onne
No offence, it is public to all though....... :oops:

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:43 pm
by iambiggles
Onne wrote:No offence, it is public to all though....... :oops:
HAHAH - I was ony kidding!! I realise that all you buggers can see it, just don't you DARE bid against me !!

:P :P :P :P

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:45 pm
by iambiggles
Well I got it..... I just hope its as good as they said it is (dry stored after reconditioning and never used) as I paid a bit more than I intended.

Ahh well - hopefully this will form the basis of a replacement performace engine for the Mog.

Give me something to do over the summer anyhow :)

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:08 pm
by Onne
As long as it is in good nick, money well spent, i'd say

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:20 am
by rayofleamington
blummin eck!!! I'd expect a complete car for that ;-)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:48 pm
by iambiggles
rayofleamington wrote:blummin eck!!! I'd expect a complete car for that ;-)
LOL - tell me about it :-?

I'd have considered (and in fact did) a full Ital car, but I simply don't have the space - at least this way I can pick it up in the back of my Kangoo and get it off to MED-Engineering to get the work done to get if 1380'd (as this is the cunning plan). I spoke to the seller and its been dry stored since recon, so the crank, block etc will be useable for MED to do their stuff.

It is more than I really wanted to pay, but once I'd decided...... well, you know how it is. :wink:

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:07 pm
by rayofleamington
well, you know how it is.
:oops: unfortunately, yes I do know how it is :lol:

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:31 pm
by bmcecosse
Are you sure about MED ?? Perhaps consider Morspeed. Mini lads seem to think they give top value for money. 1380 is also leaving very thin walls - it could go porous on you and then it will be scrap! The extra few ccs make very little difference to performance - big difference to reliabilty/overheating/head gasket problems.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:14 pm
by Cam
1380cc (73.5mm bore) seems to be the agreed limit for reliable running. It's pretty universally accepted now. Morspeed also do 1380cc kits / rebores.

MED know what they are doing as they have been in business for quite a while now. :wink:

Morspeed seem to be about £100 or so cheaper, but I personally would wonder why that is....... :-?

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:43 pm
by Kevin
Dont forget that Oselli also do the `A` series engines as well.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:28 pm
by bmcecosse
I think Morspeed have much lower overheads - certainly get excellent write up on Minifinity board. Personally I have no experience of them. But for THAT price I would just be running the engine 'as is' - it's supposed to be new !! Stick a decent cam and head on the thing - it should go very well !

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:48 pm
by rayofleamington
But for THAT price I would just be running the engine 'as is'
For that price you should build a glass case for it, make a shiny brass plaque, and have 24 hour security guards ;-)

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:39 pm
by bigginger
I'm puzzled - I got the same over my engine. Where are you guys buying your recon and unused engines so cheaply? :-?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:15 am
by iambiggles
bigginger wrote:I'm puzzled - I got the same over my engine. Where are you guys buying your recon and unused engines so cheaply? :-?
Some people just like to do stuff on the cheap I guess....

Its not like £200 is a lot of money for crissakes. The last project engine I built (4.6 lt V8 rover) had around £4k in it.

But if you want to stick a £50 engine in your pride and joy........

:roll: :P