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XWL61
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Another id for sale on e bay

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1955 Series 2 saloon XWL61
1957 Series 3 saloon
1955 Series 1 86" Land Rover
1953 Jowett Javelin PE Std.
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Re: Another id for sale on e bay

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I spotted it as well before I saw this notice. Also reported to ebay.
Good home offered for custom splittie
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Ebay probably wont end the auction as nowhere does it say he's offering the identity, though the pic is a bit of a clue...
Reported too for what its worth. At least POMMREG can add it to his list of 'logbook only' Minors....
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Marina p.u., '56 Morris Isis Traveller, a '59 Morris JB van, a'66 J4 van, a '54 Land Rover, Land Rover 130, Renault 5, '36Railton, '35 Hudson, a Mk1 Transit and a Sherpa Camper...

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IaininTenbury wrote:Ebay probably wont end the auction as nowhere does it say he's offering the identity,
It did originally - its been amended :(
1955 Series 2 saloon XWL61
1957 Series 3 saloon
1955 Series 1 86" Land Rover
1953 Jowett Javelin PE Std.
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Re: Another id for sale on e bay

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Gave up on the stolen minor database as owners would never supply chassis number details of their pinched motors....

Not much I can do without a chassis number - only so much I can do.
Further investigations uncovered it was an inside job!!
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I reported it for ...
listing practices.......
avoiding ebay fees....
offering choices.......
That should get it removed ,,,

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Re: Another id for sale on e bay

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I bet many of us are running vehicles that have had this ID treatment.

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Listing now removed :D
1955 Series 2 saloon XWL61
1957 Series 3 saloon
1955 Series 1 86" Land Rover
1953 Jowett Javelin PE Std.
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les wrote:I bet many of us are running vehicles that have had this ID treatment.
Speak for yourself ducky!! :lol:
Further investigations uncovered it was an inside job!!
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Re: Another id for sale on e bay

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You know,I could have fallen for it when I got a Minor 12 years ago. I've only picked up on the scams since I joined this site.
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Re: Another id for sale on e bay

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Seen plenty myself that don't quite add up over the years as a restorer. Some supplied and sold by well known Minor specialists, even a dealer who specialised in doing vans and pickups who just used whatever chassis, cab and rear body configuration with whatever logbook was convenient.

My first ever Minor doesn't quite add up as the prev owner was quite open about having rebuilt it using the best bits of two, which is why it has the reg (and probably the chassis) of a GPO van but original maroon paint wherever you looked. Not too fussed about that one as its known history, and probably no worse than what the GPO did in their own workshops when refurbishing them and at least not a total ringer...

'Best' ones I've seen were a J reg convertible with trafficators, gold speedo and push pull knobs. Even the body numbers had been swapped over on that one as they were still in smoke grey which stood out rather on a green car... :o
And a '57 1000 saloon with broad pleated seats, shrouded heater, flashing brake light indicators and no trafficators supplied by a major Minor dealer...
Theres a lot of 'em about...
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Iain
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'49 MM, '53 convertible, '55 van, and a '64 van.

Marina p.u., '56 Morris Isis Traveller, a '59 Morris JB van, a'66 J4 van, a '54 Land Rover, Land Rover 130, Renault 5, '36Railton, '35 Hudson, a Mk1 Transit and a Sherpa Camper...

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Re: Another id for sale on e bay

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XWL61 wrote:Listing now removed :D
Jolly good. Bet he regretted buying the new numberplates :D
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Iain
Fairmile Restorations.

'49 MM, '53 convertible, '55 van, and a '64 van.

Marina p.u., '56 Morris Isis Traveller, a '59 Morris JB van, a'66 J4 van, a '54 Land Rover, Land Rover 130, Renault 5, '36Railton, '35 Hudson, a Mk1 Transit and a Sherpa Camper...

A car can be restored at any time, but is only original once!
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Re: Another id for sale on e bay

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POMMReg wrote:
les wrote:I bet many of us are running vehicles that have had this ID treatment.
Speak for yourself ducky!! :lol:
Reading Iain's post, looks like I speak for many!! As I suspected. :D

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I asked the guy If he realised he was encouraging fraudulent use and he replied twice that I should get off my high horse and became abusive. Glad it has gone, shows the power of our club!

Bertie.
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Re: Another id for sale on e bay

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I asked for some clarification on this one and all got was 'That's what it says on the log book ' Any views ?

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/morris/minor/219915
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Re: Another id for sale on e bay

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It appears to be a '53 or '54. It might have a '57 reg for legitimate reasons such as being used abroad for the first few years, or it might be a typo when it was put on the DVLA database. DVLA were hopelessly innaccurate for the first couple of decades, and not much better now. Best check would be to see if the chassis number is right for its age, if it has a '57 vin plate its dodgy.

A heritage certificate, if it has one, would confirm original date, spec and whether it was exported from new.
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Heritage Certificates mean tiddly-squit unless the chassis number is taken from the bodyshell.

ALWAYS check!!

Bizzare phone call tonight, owner quoted numbers from his pickup - obviously a duff as chassis 1968, cab 1970 & engine HC - he got quite annoyed,said I was a "Nissan Micra" & he'd complain to the mmoc...Uh? WTF?!!
Further investigations uncovered it was an inside job!!
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