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Sump Gaskets

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:59 pm
by MajorL
I have just received a set of sump gaskets from ESM trying to sort out an oil leak. However the cork gaskets for

the ends of the sump seem too wide. They fit into the groove so the depth is OK but measure 10mm wide

which seems excessive when matched up to the engine. I don't want to put the sump back on to find I have an

even bigger oil leak. Can anyone confirm that the 10mm width is OK. Andy

Re: Sump Gaskets

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:07 pm
by philthehill
Are you sure that you are fitting them the right way round - the long side should go into the groove.
see:-

http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/catalog/pr ... soc=137831

Re: Sump Gaskets

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:46 pm
by MajorL
Yes I am fitting the long side into the groove but the cork seems to be very wide. ( 10 mm ). The Moss one

shown looks as though its the correct size so may have to order another set from them. Andy

Re: Sump Gaskets

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:10 pm
by Declan_Burns
Use the rubber ones-much better than cork.
Regards
Declan

Re: Sump Gaskets

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:17 pm
by philthehill
Can you please clarify what you mean by the wide side?
If it fits into the slot are you referring to the vertical side of the cork seal (packing) as the wide side
The sump gasket in question has to stand well proud of the lips either side of the cork seal otherwise it will not seal. The seal is made by the compression of the cork seal.
Make sure that the cork seal does not end up like the one in the picture AA27 attached.[frame]Image[/frame]
Declan
I always use the cork seal/packing and have never had any problems.
The cork seal/packing though is well greased before fitting which allows it to centralise in the groove.
Phil

Re: Sump Gaskets

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:56 pm
by MajorL
Phil,
Yes I am referring to the vertical (packing) side as the wide side. But as you point out and as I now understand this needs to be wide enough to give a good seal. Thanks for the Workshop Manual diagram and details. I will
greece them up and now go ahead and fit. Many thanks. Andy

Re: Sump Gaskets

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:01 pm
by mowogg
Where can you buy the rubber versions?

Re: Sump Gaskets

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:06 pm
by bmcecosse
10mm sounds about right to me - they should be soaked in oil overnight before fitting. And cork is perfectly satisfactory for these seals if fitted correctly No need to go for rubber.

Re: Sump Gaskets

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:25 pm
by MajorL
Roy,
Many thanks. They are now soaking in oil and will fit tomorrow. Solar panel working OK but could do with a
bit more sun! Andy

Re: Sump Gaskets

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:56 pm
by Declan_Burns
Phil,
Quite the opposite with me-I could never get the cork seals to work. I had the sump off about six times and they always leaked. The rubber ones worked straight off and I never had a problem since.


Mowogg,
Here's the source for the rubber seals. They need to be cut back slightly with a hacksaw (metal reinforcing ring inside)
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/catalog/pr ... egory/644/
Part no.TAM1089 Part 167 TAM1171

Regards
Declan