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A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:24 am
by The vast minority

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:55 pm
by POMMReg
No newer than mid 1958.

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:30 pm
by Madmaz
My 1960 2 door has clap hands wipers too? I'm pretty sure it can't be a 1970!! Unless someone has converted it, and why oh why would u wanna do that!!

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:16 pm
by POMMReg
LRBM, so at the least, 12yrs older than the regn.

No doubt it'll be bought without numbers being checked - bit odd as bodyshell is MoT exempt - have to ask WHY the 70 identity.

GAWD knows!!!

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:04 pm
by gtt1951
POMMReg wrote:No newer than mid 1958.
The 1963 Traveller I had, in the past, had Clap-hand wipers.

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:12 pm
by The vast minority
That's my point guys,
a bit tongue in cheek but you get my meaning. :wink:

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:05 pm
by bmcecosse
The 'lbm' dates the shell.... :roll: I have asked the seller.....

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:07 pm
by gtt1951
POMMReg wrote:LRBM, so at the least, 12yrs older than the regn.

No doubt it'll be bought without numbers being checked - bit odd as bodyshell is MoT exempt - have to ask WHY the 70 identity.

GAWD knows!!!
Could it have been a re-import and had a new reg issued at the time?

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:26 pm
by bmcecosse
I suggest as many as possible contact the seller to point out the error - he's getting a bit 'short' with me already! :lol:

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:54 pm
by busguy
Someone went to a lot of trouble fitting the later body spec features into that earlier body shell. Even fitted the large heater air pipe in the engine comp, later heater and dash speedo surround, steering wheel, black seats, etc ,etc.

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:03 pm
by gtt1951
bmcecosse wrote:I suggest as many as possible contact the seller to point out the error - he's getting a bit 'short' with me already! :lol:
Roy, he is apparently selling it as a PX and askes prospective buyers to contact the previous owner - what a load of old Crock - he is the seller and he should be fielding the questions.
George.

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:22 am
by mike.perry
Madmaz wrote:My 1960 2 door has clap hands wipers too? I'm pretty sure it can't be a 1970!! Unless someone has converted it, and why oh why would u wanna do that!!
Wipers changed 1963/4, my 63 GPO van had clap hand wipers.

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:17 am
by ManyMinors
mike.perry wrote: Wipers changed 1963/4, my 63 GPO van had clap hand wipers.
That is true but as has already been pointed out, this car must be older as it has the infamous "LBM" - the longer rear body moulding which carried over from the Series11 cars into Minor 1000 production until about 1958 :wink:

As has also been pointed out, somebody went to a great deal of trouble fitting many items from the later car and appears to have filled in the trafficator slots. The photos show the later dashboard additions and interior trim as well as the plastic interior mirror. I wonder what they did about the sunvisors which are a completely different mounting into different header rail on the later car.... One photo shows the retainer for the early type bootlid stay.

If the seller simply took it in part exchange, he probably doesn't know much about Morris Minors. I bet he wishes he hadn't done so now!

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:43 pm
by mike.perry
Whoever did the conversion did a good job, it is only the wipers, boot stay and LBM that give it away. I wonder what the number on the chassis plate is and if it is the same as the bulkhead.
Did Minor saloons have black seats?

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:54 pm
by bmcecosse
He's already tried to fob me off with 'call the previous owner to discuss' - but HE is now the seller and is responsible for what may very well be a stolen/disguised Minor.

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:27 pm
by POMMReg
bmcecosse wrote:He's already tried to fob me off with 'call the previous owner to discuss' - but HE is now the seller and is responsible for what may very well be a stolen/disguised Minor.
Roy,did you ask for its body number or close up pic of the bulkhead - whether had square or oval chassis plate?

Anyone know when the wiper motor mounting bkt changed from the square to the later bent corner type - something to do with air cleaner I believe(?).

More to all this useless stuff I do than you'd think - booklet NOW uncompassing Oz factory codes - Australian enthusiasts getting a raw deal - so 1st edition already out of date!

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:35 pm
by dalebrignall
my 1962 traveller has clap hands was one of the change over ones has that car been re registered

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:58 pm
by The vast minority
dalebrignall wrote:my 1962 traveller has clap hands was one of the change over ones has that car been re registered
One cannot re-register a vehicle to make it years younger,
It's suspicious in the extreme, that's why i pointed it out. Someone may be about to buy a whole lot of trouble here. I made the vendor aware of the obvious, as have others but I doubt he will act and remove it from sale as he obviously has money in it.

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:02 pm
by bmcecosse
I did ask him about the chassis number - and if it matched the stamped in number on the bulkhead (which of course on a 1970 would be on the floor).....there has been no reply. :roll:

Re: A rare 1970 clap hands minor

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:10 pm
by POMMReg
dalebrignall wrote:my 1962 traveller has clap hands was one of the change over ones has that car been re registered
Any chance of body code please - don't need chassis number - JUST the reversed stamped bit needed.

Ditto for anyone with a changeover Convertible.