vacuum advance pipe

[MoggyBlue]

Heya guys
So sadly my copper vacuum pipe has snapped just at the bottom of the chamber. I've had a search and found the plastic one is a much cheaper option and works just as good but how would it connect to the distributer end? Will I have to cut the end of the copper pipe so the connection is still there and push the plastic pipe over it? Wouldn't that close the copper pipe up when cutting it though?
Any help would be much approximated also I don't really feel that it has made that much of a difference without it. Is that normal?
Thanks

[philthehill]

The lack of difference may be the vacuum advance is not working.
Not having the vacuum advance working does make a considerable difference to the way a Minor engine runs and performs.
Take the distributer cap off and suck on the vacuum advance - does it move the plate inside the distributer - it should - if not replace the vacuum advance unit. If replaced use a later advance unit with the push on connector.
If the original type vacuum advance unit is ok in that it moves the plate - just cut the pipe with a junior hacksaw leaving sufficient length to enable the pipe to be pushed on. To clean the inside bore of the pipe after cutting run a suitable small drill round (by hand) inside the pipe making sure that all swarfe/filings are removed before re-fitting.

[MoggyBlue]

Heya
Thanks for the reply Phil.
Well I have a slight problem testing that
The pipe has sheered off right at the bottom of the fuel chamber I did try it when at the nationals though but not 100% it was working fully
Well the chamber down that the distributer is very wobbly and seems loose guessing it's not ment to be haha I have been tempted to get a 45d to upgrade.
She does run alright always felt she should run smoother though but do you think I should just upgrade and get a plastic pipe? Just to stop the headache
Thanks

[philthehill]

Moggy Blue
Do you mean that the pipe has sheared off where it fits into the carb or near the carb or at the vacuum advance chamber.
A photo would be appreciated.
If it has sheared off with sufficient length of metal vacuum advance pipe at either end - fitting the hard plastic vacuum advance will see you OK.
Join the metal to plastic pipes using one or two of these:-

http://www.minispares.com/product/Class ... sic/vacuum advance pipe.aspx|Back to search

or

http://www.minispares.com/product/Class ... .aspx|Back to

I personally get what you have right first before fitting a new 45 distributer.
Phil

[MoggyBlue]

This is where it has sheared (at the bottom of the fuel chamber)[frame][/frame]

Sadly not really any length to salvage it

Think I might cut the other side so I can see if my vacuum system is atleast working

[philthehill]

Thank you for the photo
Just get rid of the fuel condensate chamber and make up the shortfall with the hard plastic pipe and the two pipe connecters.
The later pipe connection did not have the fuel condensate chamber and they survived well without it.
Phil

[MoggyBlue]

Well I was thinking I may just cut the pipe off at the top And give it a suck..... see if it works lol

Is the larger chamber at the distributer end ment to move and shape by the way?

[bmcecosse]

Cut your losses and get a complete new 45D dizzy from Accuspark. Then you know it's all in good order and no gagging on a mouthful of stale petrol....

[MoggyBlue]

Cut your losses and get a complete new 45D dizzy from Accuspark. Then you know it's all in good order and no gagging on a mouthful of stale petrol....

Well that's what I've been debating but may just see if it's working rather keep it if it's working but we shall see

[MoggyBlue]

Just checked my vacuum and it is working guess ill get the plastic pipe as the copper pipe is a bit of a mess
Thanks for the help I may upgrade to a 45d one day
Just don't feel it's worth replacing if it's not broken

[dalebrignall]

the plastic and rubber ends work just as well glad you fixed it .

[MoggyBlue]

Ywah I had a feeling they were just as good whilst doing my research though the mini guys said they break up though but from what the guy was saying about his problem when his at vacuum stopped working seems they reply on the vacuum. I've been driving mine for weeks now and not been any problems guessing all Moggys atoll edge like that.
But oh well new pipe has been bought and will be fitted.