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Dashboard pics

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:34 pm
by Onne
Doe s anyone have any pics of the Dashboards of the MM, series II and 1000? Me car seems to be combined at some point I'm afraid

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:15 pm
by uclarge
check this site out, they have thousands of pictures of morris minors! go 2 the rally pics section! hope it helps....http://potteries.mmoc.org.uk/Rally_Pictures.htm there u r, lodsa rally pics! charly

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:32 pm
by Cam
Early Series MM:
http://potteries.mmoc.org.uk/RallyPics/ ... 03_038.JPG

Late series MM & early series II:
http://potteries.mmoc.org.uk/RallyPics/ ... 03_078.JPG

Late series II (Yours!):
http://potteries.mmoc.org.uk/RallyPics/ ... L2B075.JPG

Late series 3 (948cc):
http://potteries.mmoc.org.uk/RallyPics/ ... L2B068.JPG
NOTE: Technically this picture is of a 'changeover' car (1098 engine - but series 3 body) but the dash is series 3.

Series 5 (1098cc):
http://potteries.mmoc.org.uk/Members_Ca ... 40E_12.jpg

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:57 pm
by Onne
All right then, so I've got the original late series II dash, with a series 3 steeringwheel (which comes with an indicatorstick) My gearstick is different too, due to the 1098 engine and gearbox

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:20 pm
by MrA.Series
Or could someone have just taken the lids off of your glove boxes?

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:16 pm
by Onne
I've got the 'golden' clock, so it should be series 2, I am still working on pictures....

speedo

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:06 pm
by Willie
ONNE, if your car has been converted to the 1098 engine and gear-
box then you could still have a 'gold ' faced speedo and still read
your speed correctly!! The first two years of the 1098 cars (1962-64)
kept the gold faced speedo. It would read to 90mph, not the 80mph
of the earlier gold faced speedos.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:47 am
by MrA.Series
Thats what I meant to convey, cheers Willie.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:32 pm
by Onne
Right then, mine goes to 90mph, so it should go ok then, but it just isn't right, it says 50 mph when I am doing only 30mph, I measured it with a friend!

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:33 pm
by Onne
I am cleaning it up btw tonight, so keep your fingers crossed....

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:28 am
by MrA.Series
If needs be, I've got one of those two-year gold faced 1098 speedos that is un-needed to me.

speedo

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:51 pm
by Willie
ONNE...re your incorrectly reading speedo, it is probable that you
have a 1098 engine with a 1098 gearbox( ribbed casing) but with
the wrong rear axle ratio. The 1098 ratio should be 4.22-1 whereas
the series 2 ratio was 5.375-1 so,if you still have the series 2 ratio
the 1098 type speedo would think that you were doing a greater
speed than you are actually doing. As a check you should look at
the number visible on the face of the speedo. The only two numbers
for the 1098 bronze faced speedos are: SN4477/80 or SN4477/31.
This would be confirmed if you find that you can easily exceed an
indicated 90mph on your car!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:36 pm
by Onne
now you mention it, that could be the problem, but it should pull up quite quickly shouldn't it, what would the top speed be then? The fast I could is 116 kmh showing on my GPS(which I use as speedo at the moment), Or is it t'other way round? That should explain fuel consumption.....

speedo

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:24 pm
by Willie
ONNE...I do not understand "it should pull up quite quickly" as we
are discussing the speedo? Your 116Kph equals 72.5 mph which
indicates that my suggestion re the rear axle ratio is not correct.
As a further check, does your FUEL GUAGE read correctly???
I ask because if you have had the 1098 speedo fitted but still
have the series two SENDER UNIT then it should not be working
correctly.

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:33 pm
by Onne
Well, it does go down a bit quick, but I filled her up when the meter was halfway down, and 15 liters (half a tank) could be added, maybe the sender has been changed too

sender

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:53 am
by Willie
ONNE..you are probably right about the sender. What is the
serial number on the face of your speedo??

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:08 pm
by 57traveller
Image

February 1962 series 3 948cc saloon. So one of the later 948cc cars, the glovebox lids were discontinued for a time in November 1961.
80mph "bronze" speedometer which reads correctly because although there has been a later addition of 1098cc engine + gearbox it's still a 4.55:1 differential.

diff ratio

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:48 pm
by Willie
57.. I think you will find that the diff ratio was 4.22-1 on a '62
1098 car. The 4.55-1 ratio was available but only as an 'option'.
( I know from experience that a 1098 with 4.55 diff gives a nice
effortless acceleration). If ONNE gives his speedos serial number
then all will be revealed.

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:26 am
by 57traveller
No Willie, and sorry if my wording was obscure, this is originally a 948 car (Feb. '62) so has the 80mph speedo and 4.55:1 diff. as fitted when built. The diff. is the original according to Heritage Trust records. The 1098cc engine is a later addition to this particular car as I possibly should have added.
But yes you are correct about the 1098 later 1962 cars having the 4.22:1 diff. as standard.

ratios

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:00 pm
by Willie
57...ok so we are both correct. If I read ONNEs clues correctly
he has a series 2 car so the diff is/was earlier ratio than yours as was
the speedo. Don't we have fun trying to identify what has been done
to these cars over the years.