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overservoing
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:50 pm
by SteveClem
now I hate my wife's new Golf. Ok it's well made, comfy, economical,etc. Brakes great at speed but crawling off the drive, brake at your peril...head off the windscreen!! Seems makers are 'overservoing' new cars because drivers, in emergencies, aren't pushing brakes hard enough to activate abs. More 'Nanny State' or common sense? Never had this prob with the previous modern Toyota, so it's not just me...or is it??
Re: overservoing
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:09 pm
by simmitc
Father-in-Law's Renault is exactly the same. Surely with everything computer controlled, there could be progressive servoing.
Re: overservoing
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:53 pm
by amgrave
I'm glad I have seen this thread, I thought it was me. The works van, a Citrion is just the same. Fine at anything over 10 MPH but if you get caught in traffic it's either crawl or dead stop. The only way to get a slow stop is to press on the pedal just off biting then squeeze the toes, even then it does not always work

Re: overservoing
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:17 pm
by les
SteveClem wrote:now I hate my wife's new Golf. Ok it's well made, comfy, economical,etc. Brakes great at speed but crawling off the drive, brake at your peril...head off the windscreen!! Seems makers are 'overservoing' new cars because drivers, in emergencies, aren't pushing brakes hard enough to activate abs. More 'Nanny State' or common sense? Never had this prob with the previous modern Toyota, so it's not just me...or is it??
I would have thought drivers automatically jump on everything in an emergency, it's virtually instinctive! Same as if something is thrown at you, you don't just stand there---you duck!
Re: overservoing
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:43 pm
by amgrave
From the aftermath of accidents I have seen these days it seems they just say sh*t and swerve all over the place taking out as much as they can in the process.
Re: overservoing
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:51 pm
by bmcecosse
Most moderns now have emergency 'brake assist' - where if the pedal is pressed to a certain force - the system takes over and jams on the brakes even harder relying on the anti-lock to get the best stopping distance, and also bringing on the hazard lights. I've certainly not had any trouble with over sensitive brakes.
Re: overservoing
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:14 am
by ian.mcdougall
I drive a 03 golf and my wife has a 06 golf and when i drive her car i have to brake with less force than when i drive my car .its just a case of driving differently for each car ,I work in a accident repair shop and when the car is finished have to test drive the car, different models of car have their own characteristics of handling and breaking
Re: overservoing
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:22 pm
by Deux Chevaux
My previous modern car, a Škoda Fabia, had no feel through the pedal. Tickle it with my foot and the car was scrubbing speed off very quickly indeed. The current modern car, a Citroën C4, has fantastic brakes. It was the first difference I noticed over the Škoda.
Re: overservoing
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:23 pm
by irmscher
The Citroen grand Picasso is a fantastic car

my last one did 155,000 miles with hardly any problems so I got another today

Re: overservoing
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:23 pm
by SteveClem
Enjoy your new car! Nearly as exciting as a 'new' old car...
Re: overservoing
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:11 am
by irmscher
3 years old Steve but like new

Re: overservoing
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:25 am
by tysonn
Yeah but they stink of garlic.
Re: overservoing
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:25 am
by SteveClem
Isn't the garlic a dealer fitted option?
Re: overservoing
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:22 pm
by irmscher
Cheek

Far better than Ford and Vauxhall

Re: overservoing
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:38 pm
by SteveClem
Quite agree, far better, the Fords come with dealer fitted McDonalds.
Re: overservoing
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:24 pm
by sid
my 'modern' is a 1999 Citroen Xsara hdi diesel.good car IMO.had it 8 years and it gets me to work every day

bought a 1.6 Focus cheap off a car dealer mate..but keeping it in reserve..just in case
Re: overservoing
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:09 am
by irmscher
Citroen are fantastic cars and full of extras not like BMW etc
Re: overservoing
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:54 pm
by Matt
Ford make very good cars... but their common rail diesels are notoriously unreliable and expensive to fix
Re: overservoing
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:13 pm
by les
How does that make them 'good cars' then?

I wonder if there is a car that everyone says is 'good' !