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jagnut66
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Steering rack

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Hi,
Having greased my steering rack thoroughly when I fitted new gaiters a little while ago (old ones leaking), I now find it a little too free..........
Is it possible to adjust / tighten up the steering rack to remove any excess play?
It didn't seem worn before I greased it, just a slight noise when off the ground and spun from side to side, I don't think I over did it with the grease................... :-? .............
Many thanks,
Mike.
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Re: Steering rack

Post by bmcecosse »

You can take out shims and tighten up the rack - but I can't say if it can be done with the rack still in the car. It's detailed in the Workshop Manual - if you don't have one, Google for it - it's available as a free download. Just how 'free' is the rack? It should be free!! Maybe you got used to it being tight??
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Re: Steering rack

Post by alexmcguffie »

What are you using as your reference for steering weight, a modern car weighing 1.5 tons? Don't forget a Minor is half that weight and has quite a large diameter steering wheel.
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Re: Steering rack

Post by Trickydicky »

As Roy says you can adjust the shims on the damper pad. You can do it on the car but will need a large socket or spanner,
I think I used a 28mm spanner when I adjusted mine last year.
Its fiddly to do on the car but make sure the area around where you will be working is clean, you dont want any debris contaminating the rack. Also make sure the brass damper pad goes back in the way it came out otherwise when you remove a shim it may tighten up the rack too much. There is a groove in it where it sits against the rack.
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Re: Steering rack

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Thanks for your comments, I'll take them on board, though for now I have a bigger headache, as my type 9 decided to throw it's toys out of the pram at the traffic lights on the way to work yesterday, it seized up! :x

Clutch engages fine whilst the engine is running, good peddle pressure and it goes into gear or you think it does.............
as soon as I raise the clutch pedal it feels like the brakes are on (they're not) and if I lift it all the way the car stalls!!
So time to get the engine out again...... :(

This will be the second time my type 9 has let me down, I'm beginning to think I'd have been better off refitting my original Moggy box to my 1275, clutch parts would have been cheaper for sure!!.................
I would miss the 5th gear on long runs though........................... or would I..............
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels, now being sprayed by me, slowly......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1952 Morris Minor MM highlight with sidevalve engine still fitted, wants work, so joins the queue for now......
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Re: Steering rack

Post by bmcecosse »

It would seem to be in 'two gears' at the same time. The Minor box with a 3.9 or even 3.7 (but expensive these days...) works very well indeed for much lower cost and a lot less hassle.
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Re: Steering rack

Post by moggiethouable »

Ref steering, the air pressure in the front tyres if overdone will give an over light feel too.
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Re: Steering rack

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Indeed - and so will +ve camber / insufficient castor, and excessive toe-in if present..
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Re: Steering rack

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It would seem to be in 'two gears' at the same time.
I didn't know that kind of problem was possible, so I've just learnt something.

Thanks for all the comments on the steering rack, all taken on board.
Best wishes,
Mike.
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels, now being sprayed by me, slowly......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1952 Morris Minor MM highlight with sidevalve engine still fitted, wants work, so joins the queue for now......
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Re: Steering rack

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Obviously - it's not supposed to happen! There will be an interlocking mechanism to make sure it CANNOT happen...but... I know nothing of the type 9 - but there will surely be a way to access the selector rods directly (after removing gearlever/remote control etc) and then you can maybe see if anything has obviously broken or bent... Hopefully someone who knows about these boxes will be along shortly!
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Re: Steering rack

Post by philthehill »

Here is a link to problems with the type 9 gearbox.

http://www.type9gearbox.co.uk/type-9-fa ... blems.html

See the other sections for additional information on the type 9.

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Re: Steering rack

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Thanks for the link. I had a fitted a sump drain to mine, which alleviates one maintenance issue mentioned.
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels, now being sprayed by me, slowly......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1952 Morris Minor MM highlight with sidevalve engine still fitted, wants work, so joins the queue for now......
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Re: Steering rack

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Abby is now parked up round the back, I shall pull the engine and box out sometime over the Christmas break, then we shall see..............
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels, now being sprayed by me, slowly......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1952 Morris Minor MM highlight with sidevalve engine still fitted, wants work, so joins the queue for now......
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