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Camber adjustment

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:11 pm
by rogerowen
Anyone know how to adjust camber (if it's possible)?

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:06 pm
by les
The lower suspension arm chassis pin can have a thicker washer between it and the chassis leg, to give negative camber but not too thick as to stop the securing nut from screwing on fully.

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:31 pm
by rogerowen
les wrote:The lower suspension arm chassis pin can have a thicker washer between it and the chassis leg, to give negative camber but not too thick as to stop the securing nut from screwing on fully.
Thanks, but my problem is oposite - I want to correct some negative camber :o

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:15 pm
by les
Well removing the washer would help but not ideal as a washer can help spread the load. Well at least that's the theory when the washer is a larger diameter than the face of the eye bolt, from memory I'm not sure if that's the case here though, it may be the same size. However I favour having a washer in place, so I don't know what to suggest apart from thinking you might have some wear in the bushes/ trunnions/pins, or a chassis rail welded in the wrong position at some point.

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:08 pm
by MarkyB
correct some negative camber
Find out what has caused it and fix it.

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:39 pm
by philthehill
This is what you may or may not have. Taken from section K11 of the Minor wksp manual.
As above - examine the eye bolts (especially the outer rim), the eye bolt bushes and the condition of the chassis leg and see what if anything is wrong.
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Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:27 pm
by rogerowen
Thanks Phil, I'll take a look at that.

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:58 pm
by bmcecosse
You are sure you have excessive negative camber - where the top of the tyre leans in to the car relative to the bottom of the tyre... ? A 'little' neg camber helps the Minor handling a LOT ! :)

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:49 am
by rogerowen
bmcecosse wrote:You are sure you have excessive negative camber - where the top of the tyre leans in to the car relative to the bottom of the tyre... ? A 'little' neg camber helps the Minor handling a LOT ! :)
Yes, it's only on the offside. When parked up and looking back at the car it's pretty apparent, and tyre is wearing excessively on inside edge. :cry:

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:30 am
by alexmcguffie
Has the car had a new chassis leg in the past that may have been fitted incorrectly?

If you can't see washers between the eye and the chassis leg (dirt, underseal etc) is there an equal amount of theread showing on the inboard end of each eyebolt. If not then you may have an unequal amount of washers side to side.

Have you measured the camber side to side on a flat surface to confirm its not an optical illusion :)

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:53 am
by rogerowen
alexmcguffie wrote:Has the car had a new chassis leg in the past that may have been fitted incorrectly?

If you can't see washers between the eye and the chassis leg (dirt, underseal etc) is there an equal amount of theread showing on the inboard end of each eyebolt. If not then you may have an unequal amount of washers side to side.

Have you measured the camber side to side on a flat surface to confirm its not an optical illusion :)
Thanks. Chassis rails look original - but the car has a fair amount of welding repairs here and there. I've decided to rebuild the suspension each side (taking advantage of some S/H legs from a later car with larger brake drums). Will see if that helps. :D

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:54 am
by les
I remember months ago you raised this issue, regarding camber, and said you experienced a hefty impact on that side, sounds to me that this could have caused some misalignment.

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:36 am
by rogerowen
les wrote:I remember months ago you raised this issue, regarding camber, and said you experienced a hefty impact on that side, sounds to me that this could have caused some misalignment.
Yes, my daughter came off the road on black ice and anther car came off as well and side swiped the Minor. Damaged wing and grill surround + a 'ding' in the hub cap. The car got shoved sideways about 18 inches. I'm hoping that fitting new suspension from a later car might solve the problem - but I've done the offside and it still looks out. Still up on stands while I finish the N/S, so it might look better when it's on flat ground - but not holding my breath. Maybe shocker mounting got shifted :evil:

Re: Camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:18 pm
by bmcecosse
It's unlikely the damper mount was shifted.... the larger brakes are a good idea, but unless something on the old suspension was 'bent' I doubt it will help - but always worth a try.