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5 speed conversion

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:40 pm
by cliffy
Has anyone got any tips for me to prepair my 1275 Moggy for a 5 speed gearbox mod. I have not bought any parts yet but will be so very soon,I hear the type 9 ford gearbox is the way to go but i have seen that these can have a normal length remote shift or a shortened one so as the gearstick comes up through the original hole.I have had al new carpets made and fitted so dont really want to disturb these unless i have to .

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:41 pm
by Bidz
Are you planning on keeping the mechanical clutch linkage, or going for a hydraulic kit too?

Lots of advantages to the five speed box - including a place for a proper reverse light switch.

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:41 pm
by bmcecosse
Much easier and a LOT less expensive to just fit a 3.7 ratio final drive ! :)

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:26 pm
by Nickol
Where and how would you get one of those then?

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:52 pm
by philthehill
One currently on 'e' bay item No: 371120027157 at a 'Buy It Now' price of £275.

In the sellers 'other items' are items which may be of interest to other Minor owners i.e. Riley 1.5 front brakes etc.

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:41 pm
by bmcecosse
Although that seems a LOT for a 3.7 final drive - it will always be worth that - unless you break it! A 3.7 Crown wheel and pinion from MOSS is almost £400...

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:46 am
by Nickol
I am enamoured with this idea !

Have you, or others any direkt experience of how it drives with this conversion?

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:42 am
by Declan_Burns
Nickol,
I have a 3.9 and find it very nice to drive. You can buy a 3.9 or a 3.7CWP from Bastuck for ~250€ incl VAT.
http://www.bastuck.de/shop/index.php?cat=70000&hg=71000
Regards
Declan

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:34 pm
by bmcecosse
That's a MUCH better price ! And they list the 'mysterious' 3.55 Final Drive CWP at the same price !

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:57 am
by Declan_Burns
Roy,
Bastuck is distributing these worldwide. Looking at the wrapping it came in, they are made in Turkey.
Yes-the price is not bad at all.
Regards
Declan

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:40 am
by bmcecosse
Turkey? Hmmm -what's the quality like ? Do you know anyone who has used any of their parts? They may very well be the parts being supplied by 'the usual suspects' in UK of course!

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:38 am
by Declan_Burns
Quality seems OK. The fit was quite tight and I had to remove all the shims on the crown wheel side of the carrier to get the correct backlash. It is OK though.
Regards
Declan

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:47 pm
by bmcecosse
Oh right! So you fitted this already - and it's been ok.. Not made of 'the tins John West rejects' then !

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:13 pm
by Declan_Burns
Yes I have fitted it and it's fine. As I mentioned quite a tight fit -any tighter would have meant turning a couple of thou off the crown wheel side of the carrier.
Declan

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:09 pm
by Nickol
The price of €246 is just for the pinion wheel and plate (my translation) whereas the whole front end assembly is €600 plus. I would not trust myself to fit the components.

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:53 pm
by bmcecosse
It's up to you - not too difficult - just follow the Manual instructions..

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:33 am
by Declan_Burns
Nickol,
Correct, the that price is for the CWP (Crown wheel and pinion). Fitting them correctly is a totally different story !
Regards
Declan

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:23 pm
by Nickol
Today in Germany the Police are having a much publicised nationwide "blitztag", i.e the mobile speed cameras are everywhere. There is a well frequented downhill section with 70km/hr which is always a good source of revenue for the local government so I was paying more than usual careful attention.

As I was driving along watching the dial, it occurred to me that fitting a diff with a 3,77 /1 ration one would also mean a new speedometer calibrated to this new gear ratio. ....and according to my catalogue; there ain't one!!

What to do?

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:22 pm
by bmcecosse
Ahh - but there is !! The Mini speedo fits right in - and there is one with a 1249 tpm which gives DEAD ACCURATE speed and distance readings with a 3.7 final drive. Not sure if there is a KPM version though...

Re: 5 speed conversion

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:27 am
by Declan_Burns
Nickol,
My speedo is spot on with the 3.9 CWP and 145 tyres when compared with a sat nav (GPS).
Regards
Declan