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torque setting?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:45 pm
by les
I can't find a setting for the large nut on the end of the axle, holding the hub on, is there one? If so anyone know what it is please?
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:43 pm
by katy
Don' think there ever was a torque spec for it. Just tighten it up good and bend the locking tab over.
As it's only a thin nut I would be careful to not overtighten it.
Of course if you're using Roy's method of a hammer and chisel I'm not sure how you would convert that to a torque setting value.

Re: torque setting?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:02 pm
by Ufudu
Les, here are a few more useful comments at the end of this thread
http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=55769
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:07 pm
by aupickup
think i remember somewhere 50lb
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:16 pm
by bmcecosse
Yes - 3 or 4 hefty clouts with a 'wee heavy' hammer is fine - basically till it stops going round.....

Re: torque setting?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:48 pm
by les
-----or until the nut has had all flats rounded off! Anyone want a redundant heavy duty socket.

Re: torque setting?
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:00 am
by philthehill
Do the job properly and Invest in the correct socket.
If I had used a hammer and chisel on the hub nut my old foreman Archie Haydon (and under whose tutelage I served my apprenticeship) would have kicked my a--e all the way to the workshop door
Looks as though the one used by Les may be for sale.

Re: torque setting?
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:25 pm
by katy
So what is the correct size socket?

Re: torque setting?
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:49 pm
by bmcecosse
Dunno - I have a big open ender somewhere that fits..
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:32 pm
by philthehill
The socket size required is 1 & 7/8" AF.
Could only get that size in 3/4" drive so have to use an a 1/2" to 3/4" adaptor.
Because the hub nut is so narrow/thin I have ground down the nut face of the socket so that all of the socket is engaged with the nut. Normally the socket would have a inside chamfer so reducing its effectiveness.
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:33 pm
by aupickup
ah the rear hub nut dohhhhhhhhh
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:43 pm
by Ufudu
Rog says "This is actually 1 & 1/8 Whitworth but 1& 7/8 AF is a good fit", see
http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f= ... 8&p=480430
I have a 1 & 7/8 AF ground down as per Philthehill's suggestion, it works but it is a little lose.... so perhaps the Whitworth is the correct one...
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:12 pm
by les
My socket is marked 1 1/8 whit.
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:26 pm
by philthehill
My 1 & 7/8" AF socket is a relatively tight fit on the nut and is not loose at all. And yes it is marked 1 & 7/8".
Grinding down the socket to remove that inner chamfer makes all the difference to the fit of the socket on the nut.
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:38 pm
by les
Yes I had to do that, reluctantly though, as it was/is a sturdy 3/4drive Britool. There again can't think of another use for it!
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:07 am
by Ufudu
I suggest you try and get a 6 sided socket, it will be a better fit.
I have a 12 sided one which would explain the slight looseness
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:20 pm
by katy
Thanks Phil, I do have an older 1&7/8 AF socket that I'll have to look at, I was thinking that it's 1/2" drive but it's more than likely a 3/4" drive. No problem, as I also have a 3/4 drive ratchet, a johnson bar and a torque wrench.
FWIW, it looks like 48mm would be a close fit
Re: torque setting?
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:02 pm
by philthehill
48.5mm AF to be exact.
I have just measured the socket to be absolutely certain.
Katy
Can you pleas describe what a Johnson bar is? Over here if it is the same we call them breaker bars

Re: torque setting?
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:22 pm
by katy
Phil, a Johnson bar is what I was taught to call it many moons ago, the yankee's call it a breaker bar, so I guess that's the same as what you're calling a breaker bar.
A lot of our "Canadian" English is slowly (or maybe not so slowly) being changed to "American" English. We used to call small trucks a "1/2 ton" or a "3/4 ton", now they're all "pickups". We used to have chips, as in fish and chips, now they're "fries".
48.5mm AF, now that's an odd size socket.

Re: torque setting?
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:00 pm
by philthehill
Katy
Many thanks for the breaker bar description. It is as I thought.
Yes the 48.5 is an od measurement but that is what the 1 7/8" A/F socket measures between the flats.
Pickups/small trucks in Aussi land are called Utes (utilities).
Language who would have it.
