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How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:20 pm
by Minkymoo
Managed to get the door on but it's very slightly out still. I used my husband as muscle (much to his disgust) and a trolley jack to get it on but am struggling with getting it perfect!
I now realise that one of the reasons the previous door didn't close was the overly thick door seal, not a morris minor one. Have replaced that too.
Any simple tips to get the new door properly aligned?
Thank in advance

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:06 pm
by moggalot
Have you checked the hinges - try grabbing the door at the back and trying to move up and down. Worn hinges will cause the door to be low at the back. Then loosen the hinges on the body and slide the door in or out at the top or bottom to get it flush/ closing properly. Good luck.

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:25 pm
by Minkymoo
Thanks, will try that tmrw!
:)

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:17 pm
by philthehill
There are shims for fitting behind the hinges to bring the door forwards or backwards - top/bottom to align the rear of the door to the Minor 'B' post. The door hinges can also be slid in or out top/bottom to align the door to the 'B' post and rear of the front wing.
If you use the 'B post and the top of the door opening as the datum (because they are the only things that you cannot adjust so everything is relative to those) you can adjust the rear of the front wing to suite. That is why the wing has larger holes and slots on its rear end to enable you to adjust the wing to the door.
You can get oversize hinge pins to alleviate any wear in the hinge pin.
In practice it is usually a heave on the rear of the door to get it right.
When working in the BMC main agents and doing the pre-delivery it was quite usual to have to adjust the door fitment and again usually with a well placed heave or in the extreme a jack under the rear of the door.
At the end of the day it is all a case of suck it and see and using a bit of well placed judgement.

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:04 am
by tysonn
I wish I could find door seals that were the right profile.I fitted new on my rag top last year and they still have to be slammed.Tried catch adjustment,knocking in the flange etc to no avail.With seals removed the door shuts perfectly.I thought over time they would get better but not noticed it yet.Crap copies I reckon.

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:10 pm
by moggalot
I find the black (plastic) push fit seals work best in this regard. The 'genuine' coloured ones are hard work to fit. I have heard that you can get a better fit if you gently bend the lip in wards where it is tight (Usually at the front) Have yet to try it myself.

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:45 pm
by stag36587
Yes I've had exactly the same problem, doors fit perfectly without seals and not at all with the coloured seals so I am about to try tapping the flange in though I'm reluctant to muck about with the original flange positions so may try the black seals instead though they won't look as good

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:43 am
by tysonn
I knocked the flanges in too to no avail.

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:41 am
by Minkymoo
I have just fitted the black rubber seals and they seem good. Still need to lift the door 3-4mm though to get the door totally lined up, driving me crazy! Possibly the hinge pins are worn? Got new pins but am dreading that job....

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:55 pm
by moggalot
It's not easy as I said, you might be better off getting some exchange ones which have new pins. I have done them before but sometimes had to use oxy acetylene to heat them up to knock the old pins out. Be careful not to expand the old pin when hitting it.

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:21 pm
by Shaunteasdale
Hi all. I have a similar problem with my son’s door. What tools do you guys use? I’m trying regular socket sets but non will fit the bottom hinge. Also, does the adjustment come from the actual hinge to the car or hinge to the door (which look even harder to get at. Thanks in advance Shaun

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 1:29 pm
by svenedin
Shaunteasdale wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:21 pm Hi all. I have a similar problem with my son’s door. What tools do you guys use? I’m trying regular socket sets but non will fit the bottom hinge. Also, does the adjustment come from the actual hinge to the car or hinge to the door (which look even harder to get at. Thanks in advance Shaun
I suspect the fixings are BSF so you need Whitworth spanners/sockets. To cover everything in a Morris you need spanners/sockets of the standard AF Imperial type, Whitworth and BA. Basically, if you try all of your spanners and none of them fit it's going to be the other set of spanners! Never be tempted to use a spanner that doesn't quite fit or you will round the hexagon off and then there's no end of trouble.

Stephen

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 1:51 pm
by myoldjalopy
According to the post on this forum about spanner sizes: "DOOR TO A POST ¼ WHIT 13 MM IS A TIGHT FIT"
That's what it says, I haven't checked it on my car..............

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:05 pm
by Shaunteasdale
Thanks for the advice guys much appreciated, I’ve dug through father in laws sockets and finally found one that fits, looks like I just loosen the bolts to re-align the door.

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:42 pm
by svenedin
Whitworth sockets and spanners are marked with the size and “W” e.g 1/4 W. Sometimes marked BSW (British Standard Whitworth) or WW. Confusion can arise because 1/4 W refers to the bolt diameter and not the distance across the flats (AF) of the hexagon.

Re: How to Getting a morris 1000 door to fit perfectly?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:03 am
by Matt
Door Bolts need a 1/4 Whit socket/spanner.

Adding to the above, BSW & BSF use the same size heads, but because BSF is a fine thread, the head is smaller. e.g. 1/4 BSW & 5/16BSF both use the same spanner/sockets