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Master pump cant remove

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:13 pm
by Sandun
hi the brack master pump can not remove from car, Bz the two nut head, opasit side of the gear box , Bz of that the two nut can not take off Bz the torsion bar here - how can i remove it

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:34 pm
by mogbob
A frequently asked question.
The answer is in "Technical Tips ", it is just above the " messageboard " tag.

Look down the list of tips and you will find " Master cylinder Removal "

Bob

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:25 pm
by Sandun
I think dificult to put big scrwe driver tip place to under the nut on the tosan bar - not clear how to put scrwe driver

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:19 pm
by bmcecosse
Why are you taking out the master cylinder ? You need more than a 'screwdriver' - a 'pry bar' or good long tyre lever is more like it. You carefully lever the T bar out of the way - and slide the bolt clear. Then on to the other one....
Something like this Sandun - the looonnng one!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavy-Duty-4p ... 51b5b81932

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:31 pm
by simmitc
First, remove the nuts from the other ends of the bolts and ensure that the bolts are loose enough to push out. Next, place your lever against the floor above the torsion bar - a small block of good solid wood will help to spread the load. Now lever downwards, and the bar will flex sufficiently for the bolt to be pushed clear. Re-position the bar slightly to do the second bolt. The manual tells you to remove the torsion bar completely, but that really isn't necessary.

When refitting, it is best to put them back the same way - the heads are much thinner than the nuts, and although it's easier with the nuts on the outside, there is a theoretical risk of the bar catching on the nuts as it moves in use. Morris put them the way they did for a reason.

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:32 pm
by bmcecosse
Still wondering WHY you are removing it Sandun.....I see another load of trouble on the horizon........ :cry:

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:35 am
by Sandun
Why I remove it - ( 6 month I not use Car )- I see brack bind in a back wheel - and tight the brack lever - so i remove the wheel and check the dram it was very tight - then i loos the air nut - then i see the pedal loose and very easy go down ( not it up if i do paddle, if when I close the air nut ) - then i remove the brack paddle return spring and front wheel connection form master silinder " T" - if i push the master cylinder rod ( it was not tight and not come out the oil from front connection of "T " that i removed ( I see , oil has in the pump) - bz of that I think reassemble master cylinder and clean it

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:10 am
by Sandun
Can u tell 1 method or 2 method ?[frame]Image[/frame]

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:48 am
by simmitc
Method 1. Brilliant clear diagram :D

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:54 am
by MarkyB
I think reassemble master cylinder and clean it
Bad plan, nothing you say suggests it has a problem.
It sounds more like the rear wheel cylinder is sticking and needs attention.

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:30 am
by bmcecosse
Absolutely - LEAVE the master cylinder ALONE!! Just sort out the sticking rear cylinders - and then the fronts if necessary.

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:31 am
by Sandun
"It sounds more like the rear wheel cylinder is sticking and needs attention." if It is Yes Why The oil come out when i remove front break connection of " T " and if i paddling not come out oil from it

Re: Master pump cant remove

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:20 pm
by simmitc
The original question was how to remove the master cylinder. Could we please have another thread that describes what is wrong with the brakes. Eg, wheel ill not turn, wheel will not stop turning, pedal goes straight to floor, pedal will not move, fluid leaks from point "x". Once we know what the problem is, then we can offer diagnosis and solutions. :D