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Painting options, merits of different options?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:15 am
by kartman24
My wife and I have just bought a Traveller and I am planning to give it a respray in the next few months. There are obviously several ways to do this but the main consideration is that I want to end up with a nice shiny finish not something that looks dull and flat, 2 pack is out as I will be doing it under a gazebo and don`t have access to an oven or an extractor fan. I do have a compressor and a spray gun and have done a few small panels on my other car but these needed a lot of elbow grease with cutting compound to get a reasonable finish. I will be doing plenty of reading up before attempting it but I was hoping those on here could tell me of their recommendations based on their experiences with the different types of paint..........Martin

Re: Painting options, merits of different options?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:52 pm
by chickenjohn
Hi Martin,
you can get great long lasting results with cellulose top coat, look at my traveller and convertible, both cellulose finished and both still good after a wax.

I would not however , use cellulose primer as this goes on quite thin and you get sinkage of the cellulose top coat.

Much better results are to be obtained using Brantho -Korrux Nitrofest as the primer. Which is a wet sandable, rust inhibiting single stage primer. It goes on nice and thick like 2K, but does not need specialist breathing gear, just a 3M carbon filter mask is fine. 5 coats and you can wet flat it the next day as the primer is waterproof. No sinkage of the cellulose top coat and no etch primer required as it is designed to bond to bare metal.

http://www.ipcsltd.co.uk/ the UK distributors is in the unit next to mine and they are very helpful, phone them and ask to speak to Mike.

Re: Painting options, merits of different options?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:38 pm
by tysonn
You'll still need plenty of elbow grease whatever top coat type you use.

Re: Painting options, merits of different options?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:45 pm
by bigjim
whereabouts are you , just wondering if your near enough to be able to help/assist

Re: Painting options, merits of different options?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:38 am
by kennatt
The quality of celly has changed drastically over the years,once ,40 years ago, Belco(ICI recommended proceedure) paint could be sprayed as a wet on wet double header ,as it was called then ,no need for muliple thin coats.With a thinned out top coat and there was hardly any flatting back to do it shone from the gun. Now you need to be using cutting compound and a polisher,to get anywhere near a shine. Don't know what has changed,but I was informed that 90% of the basic celulose is now reclaimed from waste paint, so after three or four times,if this is true, well is there any wonder thats its now poor quality.

Re: Painting options, merits of different options?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:29 pm
by bmcecosse
I have easily sprayed celly and come away with a nice shiny finish. You MUST however spray only on a nice warm sunny day - with low humidity... And finish off with a light thin coat... It works.

Re: Painting options, merits of different options?

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:46 am
by tysonn
Roy do you wear your underpants on the outside?

Re: Painting options, merits of different options?

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:53 am
by kennatt
bmcecosse wrote:I have easily sprayed celly and come away with a nice shiny finish. You MUST however spray only on a nice warm sunny day - with low humidity... And finish off with a light thin coat... It works.
Time you got a job in a bodyshop then,because the pros can 't get a shine anymore with celly,without compounding,just ask the two who work in my familys bodyshop,and they have been at it for 20years :( :(

Re: Painting options, merits of different options?

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:15 pm
by les
At the risk of upsetting people, I resprayed my van 2 years ago and got a shine, maybe I had some good paint, it was bought in 2007. As Roy said you need a warm day with low humidity. Next time perhaps I'll have to do what others do and polish, I'll soon know as unfortunately I've got to do more spraying soon! It's also a job to get anti bloom thinners now.

Re: Painting options, merits of different options?

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:53 pm
by tysonn
Besides anything else its virtually impossible to spray to a finish unless youre in a totally dust and insect free environment.It needs flatting and cutting to get rid of all the airborne c**p thats inevitable.