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Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:05 pm
by Madmaz
Boris is thirsty? I was wondering what oil would have been in my 1960 minor originally? Any ideas? I presume he would of left Morris fed and watered?
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:53 pm
by PaulTubby
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:15 pm
by mogbob
Make sure it is a MINERAL based oil ( not synthetic ) SAE viscosity grade 20W/ 50
Everyone has their favourite and prices vary tremendously.A search on the Forum will demonstrate.
What everyone is agreed on... is that it is worthwhile changing the engine oil and filter on a regular basis.
Every day driver... follow the service intervals, sunny day / weekend driver some would say at least yearly.
It's your car that is going to wear out faster, if you don't do it at all !!
The same oil is / can be used in the gearbox ( capacities engine 6 1/4 pints and gearbox 2 1/2 pints.)
The differential is a different oil SAE 90 /EP90 ( GL4 spec ).
If you are doing the oil change yourself, don't forget a new washer for the sump plug.
When doing the differential, check the breather pipe is clear.
Usual Health and Safety warnings.. don't get under the car without it being on level, solid ground, on axle stands and other wheels securely chocked, handbrake firmly on.
Bob
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:16 pm
by viewsonic1
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:23 pm
by bmcecosse
The WILKO 20W50 oil is perfectly good enough for an A series engine (especially a thirsty one...) - and the price is right. You ask what would have been in originally - it would probably have been ESSOlube 30 Motor Oil, or possibly Castrol XL (also 30 grade) depending on where the loyalties lay at the time !
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:32 pm
by chickenjohn
Make sure the 20W50 oil you buy has an API rating of at least "E" or better, if no API rating you don't know if the oil has suitable additives to use in a Minor.
The cheapest oils may very well be filtered recycled oils from the council tip tank!
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:12 pm
by TFM150K
chickenjohn wrote:Make sure the 20W50 oil you buy has an API rating of at least "E" or better, if no API rating you don't know if the oil has suitable additives to use in a Minor.
The cheapest oils may very well be filtered recycled oils from the council tip tank!
I have spent the last 20 minutes googling "API" and its various options - nowhere can I find any reference to API ratings of "E" - what do you mean by ratings of "E or above"? On the oil that I have in the store, the API line reads
"API CH-4/CC4/CF4/CF/CF2/5J" - is that "E or above" or are you now as confused as I am? I would add that this is an SAE20W50 oil manufactured by a small firm with a good reputation in the classic car world and I have used it for years

Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:21 pm
by philthehill
If Boris is thirsty and with the price of lubricating oil these days it may be time for at least piston rings and/or valve stem seals.
What is the consumption i.e. miles per ltr?
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:17 pm
by bmcecosse
Nothing wrong with recycled oil - for a humble A series! It doesn't need any fancy additives - but just don't expect it to last 'for ever'. ANY oil is better than LOW oil level - as long as there is oil pressure - and a working filter (ie no lost plate or spring, and not blocked so the oil by-passes) the engine will be fine for 3000 miles on the inexpensive oils.
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:22 pm
by mike.perry
Your car would have left the factory with straight 30 grade oil, multi grade had probably not been invented. However using 30 grade is probably taking concours judging a little too far
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:45 pm
by bmcecosse
Here you go - but can you be SURE it's the original oil in the can - and does it have an APi rating????

Concours cars will surely use nothing else.... but then again - maybe they don't need any oil, going about on trailers.......
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-VINTAGE- ... 2ecfc9be4c
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:15 pm
by jagnut66
Hi,
I've been using the Halfords one too recently. It seems fine to me and only £19 for 5 litres. Never heard of 'API' before though, apparently the Halfords one is this:
API SE CC
Good enough?
Almost worth buying the 'Essolube' on eBay for the tin.... almost......
Best wishes,
Mike.
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:51 am
by Trickydicky
I have been using 20W50 from here
http://www.diy.com/nav/fix/car-maintena ... Id=9227684
Been using it for a couple of years and it's fine.
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:32 pm
by M25VAN
10% off at the moment if you are a member of the B&Q club.
http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/content/mark ... ?menu=club
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:43 pm
by dalebrignall
i use the car lube stuff from b and q that comes with a rating , morrisons doing 20/50 for a tenner when i last looked

Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:58 pm
by midengineracer
API = American Petroleum Institute
I believe ACEA is generally used by you guys across the pond...
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:48 pm
by lambrettalad
I'm off to Wilco's in the morning to buy ,a gallon plus a top up .All for less than £20 quid

Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:55 am
by chesney
I discovered recently that my very local old school 'classic' garage sell Millers 20/50 at £9.50 a gallon, or £10.45 for 5 litres. So for me, that's what I use!
Otherwise, I'd still be using Wilko's 20/50.
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:54 pm
by Madmaz
Well we have only had Boris a little while and he's not that thirsty( thank goodness) thank you for all ur help, I'm gonna spoil him with a quality oil I think, at his age he deserves it!!
Re: Motor oil?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:52 pm
by ampwhu
B&Q do a 5 litre for £11 I think. its in a blue container and it's 20/50. that's all you need