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Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:51 am
by morrisismine
Welcome to you all. I am Ton Kramer from the netherlands. a.h.kramer@hotmail.com

Maybe someone out there can answer my question. I am the owner of a 1966 Minor Van. In bottom-inside of the reardoors there is a triangle-shaped hole that is not covered at all. Here and there I find pictures of doors that either have covers or are not covered at all. So my question is: are these holes originally covered or not?
If originally covered, which material is used? Metal? Wood? Cardboard?

And if these are original parts, might any of you be able to offer me some?

Please do advise!

Thank you very much,

Ton

a.h.kramer@hotmail.com

P.S. For collectors I have some rare diecast metal van models for sale, plus saloons and travellers etc.

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:40 pm
by drivewasher
I don't know why some are covered & some aren't I suspect the post office vans where covered to stop mail getting "lost" inside the door cavity.
I have about 6 doors the 2 on my van are open 2 of my extra ones are open and the other 2 are closed. They are closes with steel panels about 1.00mm thick fixed with self tapping screws

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:05 pm
by morrisismine
Thank you very, very much for your very speedy response. I do appreciate this very, very much and your answer is extremely helpfull!!

Greetings, Ton Kramer

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:18 pm
by PaulTubby
Yes all civilian van's didn't have them covered, only GPO and yes made of mild steel and painted gloss black and held on with pozi drive self tappers :)

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:43 pm
by POMMReg
PaulTubby wrote:Yes all civilian van's didn't have them covered, only GPO and yes made of mild steel and painted gloss black and held on with pozi drive self tappers :)
Gloss black?!!

Where do you get this duff info from?!!!

Almost as bad as white Wingard mirrors on PO Minor vans, when
in fact they were first fitted to Bedford HA's!

Is anyone interested in facts anymore?!!

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:23 am
by MarkyB
They were gloss black on my old post office van, J reg.
May have been different on earlier vans.

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:47 am
by POMMReg
What was the regn?

This doesn't make sense as drs were sprayed AFTER this panel was
fitted - confirmed by fixing screws also being painted.

When the GPO experimented with auto-clutch Minor vans, anything's
possible!!

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:49 pm
by MarkyB
RWL 590J
Maybe they were fitted at the same time as the bins and things in the back?

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:42 pm
by POMMReg
MarkyB wrote:RWL 590J
Maybe they were fitted at the same time as the bins and things in the back?
This was a postal van, did you own it when it had the locking-bar, or
when the rear doors had been changed?

Did you own this in the late '80s/early '90s?

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:27 pm
by drivewasher
Well now youv'e scared "morrisismine" a new member off. Back to the origonal question.[frame]Image[/frame][frame]Image[/frame]

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:19 am
by POMMReg
Yes, I have that effect on people....

So there we have it, GLOSS blk can be clearly seen under the blue paint!!

Are the drs from a rare 1955 GPO Telephone/Postal/Pick'n'Mix van?

Have to paint 26 green/red or yellow "Triangles" in gloss blk now!!!

Mr.P.Pot

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:22 am
by drivewasher
I don't know. Those doors are defo yellow underneath the blue. I'll have a go with some emery paper if I get chance, see what it turns up.
Regarding age/origin I don't know, how would I tell?

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:35 am
by MarkyB
This was a postal van, did you own it when it had the locking-bar, or
when the rear doors had been changed?
They were the original doors, the bar was gone and the hole had a big blob of filler in it.
Same sort of thing on the drivers door, Yale lock gone, replaced with filler.
Did you own this in the late '80s/early '90s?
Sounds about right.

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:46 am
by drivewasher
MarkyB

How do you split someones post you are quoting up into seperate quotes, as you have done above

Steve Thicko Drivewasher

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:07 am
by MarkyB
Just copy the text you want and put it between to quote tags you get from the quote button.


[quote ]How do you split someones post you are quoting up into separate quotes[ /quote]

[quote ]as you have done above[ /quote]

( I've added spaces to the tags above so they are not hidden)

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:52 am
by POMMReg
MarkyB wrote:
This was a postal van, did you own it when it had the locking-bar, or
when the rear doors had been changed?
They were the original doors, the bar was gone and the hole had a big blob of filler in it.
Same sort of thing on the drivers door, Yale lock gone, replaced with filler.
Did you own this in the late '80s/early '90s?
Sounds about right.
You didn't carry out these alterations yourself - was it bought DIRECT
from the PO?

Were these panels simply reversed to make it more civilian?

RWL 586J & 273839 - either side of yours, both red.

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:17 pm
by MarkyB
The conversion to civilian life wasn't done by me, I'd have kept the Yale lock on the drivers door at least.
The clips on the sides appeared to have been chiselled off, some metallic tape put over the holes then some more filler slapped on.
I think it had been painted from the tanker of Blue paint they were all done in but I could be wrong, it's not the only van I've owned.
When I got it just about everything had been sprayed White, trim, rubbers even most of the tyres.
It was the fashion for a short while on new cars, just better executed :)
I think it still had the manifold restrictor too but that could have been one of the others too.

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:07 pm
by POMMReg
Operated with HpMr Oxford as R-3, sold June 1977

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:02 am
by PaulTubby
Chris, yes gloss black, same as the metal door panels on the front doors... I no off two very original vans and thee are all black gloss, minus age scratched and chips.... If you feel I'm wrong that's fine... But I no what I have seen, and no what looks original and been off the road in a barn for many years is genuine. Have a issue with what I say feel free to pm me....don't scare new members of Chris please, we need new members and new people for the success of this forum and the cars, vans etc.. Also be nicer and kinder in your words to current forum members as people are getting upset of late with sharp remarks etc

Re: Van reardoor inside cover

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:27 am
by drivewasher
As promised, one of my old doors with the cover plate sanded down a bit. As you can see doors are now blue, they are yellow under the blue I assume door was ex BT.
So from top to bottom, Blue,Yellow then black and eventually bare steel.[frame]Image[/frame]