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help with welder fault

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:08 pm
by SR
is nothing simple? changed the reel ,had to take torch apart to get wire through, now its splitter/splatter ,welding on low power it seems even though ive got it on full ,120amps,gas bottle on, has anyone got a diagram of how washers ect; go together,cheers steve

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:11 pm
by Welung666
Sounds like it's earthin' out before it leaves the nozzle. What welder is it? I got a few sets of schematics here for some of the smaller hobby welders.

Lee

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:13 pm
by SR
ello lee , its a sealey 120turbo , great bit of kit

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:14 pm
by Welung666
Nice, had the 90 for a while, got a gasless sealey now and it's PANTS! :lol:

I'll have a look for you, got a Clarkes repair CDROM here somewhere

Lee

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:17 pm
by SR
cheers mucker , them wide wheels on your car look the bizzo

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:47 pm
by Welung666
Can't find this disc :( I'll have a hunt and post you a diagram as soon as I find it

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:52 pm
by SR
thanks mate

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:19 am
by Welung666
OK closest I can find this morning is the PDF manual for the 100, but they are pretty much the same welder.

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/doris_minor

If that is no help let me know and I'll have to find out the engineers repair manual and scan a page or two

Lee

Welder trouble

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:24 pm
by galaxie390
Hi,

Whats the condition of your earth lead like? Check where the cable assembly enters the body of the welder. The earth braid inside the cable is crimped into a fitting which in turn is bolted into the cable feed assembly. If, like my welder, it got occasionally tugged around by accident by the cable it can cause the earth lead to be pulled out of the crimp thus causing the bad earth. Tried to fix my 120amp SIP, but ended up having to get a complete new cable assembly.

Check also the earth clamp fittings.

Also, try dismantling the hand torch and check the connections inside.

Hope you sort it out, as a welder that is erratic really messes with your head. Its funny how they usually give up the ghost and need a good kick just as you've manouvered yourself into that really tight awkward postion under the car :evil: . Remember, we do this for fun?!

Good luck,

Rich :)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:33 pm
by SR
thanks for your help chaps, its sorted ,i was being lazy when i undone it to investigate yesterday i noticed dirty contacts , anyway , cleaned em all up , done it all up nice and tight, and now it makes that lovely fizzy/buzzy noise as i glide down the metal, with a oneway ticket to smileville, steve

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:56 am
by SR
on a similar note , if anybody is wasting their money on disposable bottles of gas, i use a co2 bottle from the pub cellar, if u use the pub as much as i used too u might get it free like me , lasts years,steve

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:50 pm
by Stig
On a related note, what's the general verdict of gassless vs. normal MIG?

I've only used a gassless 90A welder and the results have been, shall we say, variable. I accept that a lot of that is my (lack of) skill as the "laying down underneath" welds are much uglier than the "sqaut down comfy next to the sill" welds I've done in the past.

I was wondering if it's worth getting the gas adapter is all...

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:58 pm
by doobry
laying under a car and welding to the rusted underneath is bad enough with the gas turned up high, let a lone a gasless mig. You are brave!
Even with sheilding gas it takes a fair bit of skill to get a decent weld (full penetration, no blow holes) when gravity is working against you. I tend to find I get drips forming so I use shorter bursts rather than lower current. It's certainly a nice feeling to get topside and see a neat line of weld penetrated through the floor, although I still have to go back under with the grinder and dress the blobs a fair bit :-(

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:00 pm
by Cam
what's the general verdict of gassless vs. normal MIG?
Gasless = bad.
normal MIG = good.

I would invest in a gas adapter if I were you.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 5:22 pm
by picky
I've posted this elsewhere but anyone wanted to get rid of a working gas MIG welder, I can come and collect as long as its near york. PM me if you can help,
Tim

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:28 pm
by turbominor
Gasless = bad.
normal MIG = good.

I would invest in a gas adapter if I were you.
ill second that!