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Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:45 pm
by Mr Don
Oh Dear

SAS Shepshed, had a Moggy gaiter, which was great. :)
Sadly, the track rod lock nut is seized to track rod end. :(
Nothing seems to work.

Tried, brute force, long adjustable plumbers spanner.
Penetrating oil.
Heating with blow torch.

I would welcome tips please on getting the blighter off.

Can you replace the tie rod in situ, if you can get the part? Which I recently did on my Seat.
Or is it a new steering rack job? neither ESM or Bull Motif seem to stock steering tie rods. Although some joker on ebay has a pair of second hand ones for £75 when ESM can supply a whole steering assembly reconditioned unit for £60, plus a returnable deposit.

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:16 pm
by les
Don't be offended but are you trying to turn it the right way?

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:28 pm
by bmcecosse
They can be tight - having been neglected for many years - but Penetrating oil overnight + blow lamp should be impossible to resist. Try try again! And when you assemble - a smear of grease will make it easier next time........

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:45 pm
by Mr Don
les wrote:Don't be offended but are you trying to turn it the right way?

It had crossed my mind. Yes, I believe I am.

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:49 pm
by Mr Don
bmcecosse wrote:They can be tight - having been neglected for many years - but Penetrating oil overnight + blow lamp should be impossible to resist. Try try again! And when you assemble - a smear of grease will make it easier next time........
Thanks for the reassurance. I will try again after it fails the MOT tomorrow. More penetrating oil, time and blow torch it is them.

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:20 pm
by bmcecosse
Both sides are normal RH thread....

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:18 am
by MarkyB
I was defeated by one of these too, had to take it to a garage who had oxy-acatelene to heat it up enough, my blow lamp couldn't get it hot enough.

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:08 am
by ian.mcdougall
two hammers on opposite flats sharp hit to see if you can free the locked nut

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:57 pm
by Mr Don
ian.mcdougall wrote:two hammers on opposite flats sharp hit to see if you can free the locked nut

Thats worth a try

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:30 pm
by Matt
And... you have to grip the track rod end and the locking nut, (I assume you are anyway?) NOT the track rod itself.

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:37 pm
by bmcecosse
No - grip the track rod with stillsons - and free the lock nut with a suitable spanner - or another set of stillsons if the corners have gone.

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:59 pm
by Mr Don
Thanks for the help people

I got the blighter off
Two hammers, one used as an anvil.
Large spanner and a stilson on the rod.

Not easy peasy, but off it came. :D

Car now ready for MOT retest.

Re: Track Rod End and lock nut seized to steering tie rod.

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:15 pm
by bmcecosse
Well done - grease it all well when back together - and wipe grease over the exposed thread and the flats of the nuts and TRE.