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Can engines come loose?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:55 pm
by Fingolfin
I ask because today I attempted to go for a drive, but before leaving the driveway I heard a knocking from the front when I went over bumps, and then I discovered this:[frame]Image[/frame]
It appears that the right-hand engine mount is disintegrating! (This is disappointing because it's brand new.) Jacking against the sump confirmed that the engine is not loose -- yet -- but can this mount fail catastrophically? Can I drive safely?

Re: Can engines come loose?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:06 pm
by jagnut66
Hi,
Probably best not to drive it with them in that condition.
I have heard that the new mounts can be a bit hard but not of them actually breaking up......
If you still have the receipts speak to the supplier and request replacements, they should send you them FOC but they may ask for the old ones back first, so they can see for themselves.
Do you still have the old ones and would they suffice until you get replacements?
Best wishes,
Mike.

Re: Can engines come loose?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:37 pm
by Fingolfin
I haven't got the old ones (which had turned to lava rock -- crumbly and hard), but I have got a spare or two. I'll replace it and see what happens.

I should add that I don't think the knocking is coming from the engine; it seems to be coming up through the steering column, so it's the rack or the suspension somewhere. :roll:

Re: Can engines come loose?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:26 pm
by bmcecosse
It may have been fitted incorrectly - under some 'tension' - but it seems to be general view that the mounts supplied these days are rubbish quality...... I wouldn't drive it like that - but I doubt it is the source of your noise........

Re: Can engines come loose?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:43 pm
by jagnut66
Just a thought with regard to your knocking, check all the nuts and bolts holding your front suspension / brakes together, mine have come loose in the past (or I didn't tighten them enough :roll: ).
Also I've had it suggested to me that the wheels nuts can work loose.
All or any of the above could lead to a knocking whilst the car is in motion.
Best wishes,
Mike.

Re: Can engines come loose?

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:43 pm
by stag36587
I found the front brake back plates loose on my car - worth a quick check

Re: Can engines come loose?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:55 pm
by Fingolfin
Part of the knocking/rattling/etc. was probably caused by a loose torsion bar, which I just fixed: http://mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=51255

I'm going to replace the engine rubber tonight or tomorrow, and then I'll take the car for a drive and see if things are better. I think I'll also loosen the steady bar slightly, as I've done it up real tight and I've read that that's not a good idea.

Re: Can engines come loose?

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:55 pm
by IslipMinor
Is that mount right? It looks like the right hand part is the new mount and the left hand part a plate left over from the old one?

Re: Can engines come loose?

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:58 pm
by Fingolfin
No no...it's all one part, or at least it came as one part. I guarantee I replace engine mount rubbers wholesale and not in pieces. :wink: It split after slight use.

I changed this mount for one of my old ones (I thought I had new spares, but I was wrong, and it turned out I hadn't thrown out my old ones), but the old one isn't very happy either. I'm going to order some NOS rubber blocks and see if they make a difference.

Re: Can engines come loose?

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:34 pm
by Fingolfin
The old one has actually sheared longitudinally, with the blockside plate separating from the rubber. I'm glad I didn't drive with it much! I've ordered a new one, and I'll let you know how I get along.