Morris Minor Owners Club

Hi,

hope my English is good enough to explain my problem!
My Traveller is lopsided...........
I mean, if you look on the car from behind, the right side is
lower than the left side.
I already changed the rear springs and changed the oil from
the shock absorbers...............no improvement!

What is this?
May it be possible that the car got lopsided whilst the restoration???

Thank you for comments.

Guido

Hi,
How much difference is there ?

10, 20, 30, 40mm

is it all the way or just at the rear of the car

If you measure from the floor to the top of the wheel arch at the rear it is usually a good guide.

If the floors and spring hangers have been changed then this could be a problem.

I think more pictures from rear of the car would help.

Peter

Your English is fine.
Either you car is right hand drive or some other owners passenger was very fond of pies and ate all of them.
The drivers side does tend to settle as there is always someone in it when the car is in use, the torsion bar needs to be adjusted to compensate for this.
Large adjustment by moving the front suspension arm on the splines, smaller ones by the vernier plate at the back of the bar.
Whatever adjustment needs to be done you must take the pressure of the bar first, a short search should reveal how.

Jack up the front of the car in the middle, enough to take the weight off the front springs.
How is the back now? Still lopsided?
Then jack up the back under the middle of the axle. Is the front lopsided?

Mine was like that... adjust the torsion bar a few revolutions and it will level, that's what they do

... adjust the torsion bar a few revolutions and it will level

I would suggest a more cautious approach and adjust by one spline at at time.

Cheers
Don

Hi beero,

that is a good idea, I´ll do that first...............
Tell you about my practical knowledge later.

Guido

A few revolutions would be amazing....... One spline at a time.....but do inspect the rear mount of the T bar - in case it is disintegrating..... And don't be surprised when you raise the car one spline - if it seems to be too high.....take it out for a run and let it settle down.

do not understand??
What is the t bar??
What means "spline"?

Sline is on both ends of the torsion bar (T bar), number 11 in this diagram
http://www.morris-minor.co.uk/p238.htm

Easy check for front suspension is - the gap between top of the tyre and front wing edge - is it same both sides? Moving the lower arm one spline DOWN will lift the car ~ 30mm at that side. If the unbalance is only at the rear - you need to look at the rear springs and/or the mountings of the springs. One check is to swap the springs over - side to side - and see then if the car sits level - or just the same.

GuidoDieringer wrote:do not understand??
What is the t bar??
What means "spline"?

Guido
t bar=Torsionsstab
Spline=Verzahnung
Hope it helps
Regards
Declan

I'm interested in your use of 'scalene' to describe your Traveller...... To me 'Scalene' is a very aggressive pickling acid we used on our electro plating lines ! Perhaps Declan can translate that one for us !?

Might be a reference to a scalene triangle - no sides/angles are the same so it is lopsided, like Guido's traveller

Hahahaha - indeed! I had long forgotten that one......

A scalene ellipsoid, one in which the lengths of all three semi-principal axes are different seems more likely.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalene
I was thinking triangle too.

bmcecosse wrote:I'm interested in your use of 'scalene' to describe your Traveller...... To me 'Scalene' is a very aggressive pickling acid we used on our electro plating lines ! Perhaps Declan can translate that one for us !?

Scalene triangle=Unregelmäßiges Dreieck.
QED
Regards
Declan

I should just have asked Google....