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Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:15 pm
by Ufudu
Hi all,
I may have missed this in my search, but are these leaf clamps common? There is a rubber insert between the spring and the clamp. It is quite different from the 'U' clamp plus bolt arrangement the manual seems to show. I'm asking since I'm about to start dismantling & cleaning the rear of the 1960 saloon and do not see any replacement clamps/rubber in the usual places (BM, DMG, EMS etc)
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Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:00 pm
by MartinLowe
The U bolts are where the axle crosses the spring
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:37 pm
by bmcecosse
You won't find replacements - you can reasonably easily make new ones yourself. Otherwise - leave well alone ! Or buy new springs of course......
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:33 am
by Ufudu
Thanks BMC, that's what I thought.
Martinlouwe, apologies, I meant these U clamp plate thingies that hold the leaves together not the axle U bolts.[frame]

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Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:02 pm
by Ufudu
I have now dismantled the springs, most of the rubber components are pretty rotten.
I'm not sure how much difference it makes, but I see a small strip of 2mm rubber sheet between the end of each lower leaf and the one above it, presumably to aid the movement of one leaf relative to the other.
The question I have: is that correct, or was there rubber between each leaf for it's entire length (not just at the ends?)
If my description makes no sense I will try & rustle up some photos...

Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:56 pm
by bmcecosse
Pretty sure mine are metal to metal......
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:05 pm
by MarkyB
Same here, I believe it helps damp the spring.
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:56 pm
by Ufudu
Thanks Folks, I think I will clean & reassemble as I found it, with some fresh rubbers....
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:26 pm
by drivewasher
they are called "rebound clips" they keep the spring from splaying AND keep them tight together so as the friction between the leafs helps rebound damping as the spring lengthens and shortens
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:25 pm
by bmcecosse
Yes indeed - but I haven't seen them with rubber in there.......
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:32 pm
by les
It seems that companies are selling springs like this, I fitted a pair, admittedly a while back but the thin metal band wrapped around the leaves break or rust and the thin piece of rubber falls out. I've found my springs are missing some. Not a patch on the original 1/8th thick steel brackets. Another example of shoddy goods, possibly dangerous in this case.
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:21 am
by klm
This is a genuine rear spring with original clip and rubber pads. The spring has two clips at the front and one at the rear of the spring. Shown on the photo is the rear clip. The rubbers can still be obtained on special order from a company here in Australia.

Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:03 pm
by les
They're not like that here! the metal 'strap' is the same, although narrower, because there is no rubber pieces. The springs now have a thin metal band wrapped round the leaves with a thin piece of rubber in between, and no bolt. The bolt shown in the last post doesn't look original to me.
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:09 pm
by bmcecosse
Not at all convinced these are 'original' !!
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:36 pm
by drivewasher
That bolt looks like a coach bolt. And the thread looks like 8x1.5mm thread.
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:56 pm
by les
Also, in the uk, the bolt passes through a metal tube to stop the clamps crushing.
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:33 pm
by drivewasher
Yep!
That nut will forever becoming loose as it's got nowt to tighten onto
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:23 pm
by aupickup
certainly non original
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:50 am
by klm
The spring I posted was removed 20 years ago from an Australian assembled Minor 1000 saloon and it is possible that the spring was manufactured in Australia. The bolts have metal tubes which I have not installed as they are currently being cleaned and painted. The bolt used is a coach bolt, again possibly made in Australia by Ajax. The rubbers have markings 'MOWOG Australia'. As I am aware this is a genuine spring used on Australian Morris Minors as it has the part number ACA 5016 Y stamped on the bottom leaf. I expected the springs fitted to UK assembled cars to be identical in specification and appearance.
Re: Rear Leaf Spring clamps
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:47 pm
by bmcecosse
Does sound like local production then....