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Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:25 pm
by bluegrass
I have found a leak at my exhaust flange joint/manifold. On closer inspection, the flange on the pipe has a slight outward kink in the place where is leaks from.( Left hand side in picture) Whats the best way to repair it and get a good seal? How is it best to clean it up, sandpaper?

Thanks for any help

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Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:16 pm
by bmcecosse
That 'nip' is caused by the clamp design. You need to dress the flange correct using a ball pein hammer, coat with a little exhaust paste and refit to the manifold which you can attack with a wire brush. You may want to consider a new clamp. Support the exhaust in place with a jack under while doing up the clamp.

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 6:17 am
by bluegrass
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 10:04 am
by Biggles1957
I make up a folded strip of aluminium foil spread with gungum and wrapped around the joint, then put the clamp on and smooth it all off after tightening - makes a very neat gas tight joint :D

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:01 pm
by bmcecosse
Not sure that Al will last long in there - it can glow red!! But I have seen that some use a circle of Copper wire in between to make a seal.......

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:41 pm
by Biggles1957
Well I wondered if it would last but it surprisingly did! I folded a strip about 6" wide over and over till it was about 1" then smeared gungum along it quite generously so it worked like a bandage - wrapped it snug round the joint then put the clamp on and finally smoothed the paste nicely. When I took it apart after about 2 years I was amazed that the foil was still good - so I did the same again when I put the new manifold on :D

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:05 pm
by JOWETTJAVELIN
Fireputty or exhaust jointing compound is the best for this joint as it will withstand the temperatures.

When I have used Gun Gum in the past for this joint, it tends to blow again after a week or so.

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:35 pm
by bmcecosse
Only a thin smear of paste should be used -or necessary!

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:39 am
by stag36587
Would a propriety exhaust bandage trimmed neatly to fit be a suitable alternative to the aluminium foil idea?

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:46 am
by bmcecosse
NO!!! If the flanges are properly prepared it doesn't need ANYTHING!! Just a wipe of paste - a good clamp and good free running screws with brass nuts........ Do it as it was designed -it works........

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:13 pm
by stag36587
bmcecosse wrote:NO!!! If the flanges are properly prepared it doesn't need ANYTHING!! Just a wipe of paste - a good clamp and good free running screws with brass nuts........ Do it as it was designed -it works........

hmmm it hasn't so far

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:34 pm
by bmcecosse
Line the pipe up accurately - adjust the hangers if (probably) necessary - and put a jck under the front pipe to hold it firmly in the correct place. Clean the clamp of any old/hard paste, and around the manifold end too - and then fit the clamp doing it up securely - but not so tight it distorts the flange on the pipe.....

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:17 pm
by JOWETTJAVELIN
Just another word of caution about over-tightening the manifold clamp - don't forget it can crack the cast iron. Not so much of a big problem on a Minor, but for those who run cars for which the spares may be harder to find.

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:36 pm
by MarkyB
Try and position it right first time, the more you move it about, the more paste will be moved from where it needs to be.

Re: Exhaust Flange Damage

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:00 pm
by myoldjalopy
And don't tighten the nuts so hard they strip off their threads! I did that once when I couldn't get a seal - turned out it was a distorted pipe flange when I looked closely and all was OK again after I reformed it with a pair of pliers (and got a new nut). There's a right way and a wrong way to do everything.............and I did it wrong first time round. :(